Quadrocopters :) - Page 5

neallewis · #81 07-05-2013

Been out flying again tonight, it was windy. Software update on the naza, which is a really good improvement. Glitch free so far, and better control on decents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHrhgMsAON0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpix-SYNXAE

My flying is better in the second video I think.

How are you getting on Col? got your replacement motor and flying now?

andys · #82 09-05-2013

Still trying to decide which route to go with this Quad stuff !

I keep looking on Hobbyking, but there is too much choice and it's confusing !

I found this guide - which looks really usefull for the KK route :
http://oddcopter.com/2012/12/12/easy...he-parts-list/

I think I'm going to do this as cheaply as possible, so something to learn on before parting with too much cash.

I saw hobbyking are doing a quad speedcontroller soon - might hang on for that.

Col - How's yours going, any updates ? Are you happy with what you bought, or would you have done / bought anything differently - very temped to 'copy' your route

Cheers Guys.
Andy

learnerdriver · #83 09-05-2013

if you want something to learn on, try the syma x1 for about £35 from uk

good liitle quad to start with

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Originally Posted by andys

Still trying to decide which route to go with this Quad stuff !

I keep looking on Hobbyking, but there is too much choice and it's confusing !

I found this guide - which looks really usefull for the KK route :
http://oddcopter.com/2012/12/12/easy...he-parts-list/

I think I'm going to do this as cheaply as possible, so something to learn on before parting with too much cash.

I saw hobbyking are doing a quad speedcontroller soon - might hang on for that.

Col - How's yours going, any updates ? Are you happy with what you bought, or would you have done / bought anything differently - very temped to 'copy' your route

Cheers Guys.
Andy

andys · #84 09-05-2013

Cheers Chris - I already have two of the WL Toy's quad's the 949 I think

They are indeed ace, but i'm really getting the hang of flying them now and i'd like something that's bigger and does not get blown away by a light breeze !

I wish Hobbyking sold 'packs' or at least bundled everything together on the quads to give you a simpler way of buying. I know i'll forget something - or buy something that's wrong, so although i'm ready to buy - I don't know what to buy !

I was going to do the DJI / Nazza route, but it's just too expensive for what I want. I'm sure I can do this much, much cheaper and have lots of cheap spares for when I inevitably crash.

andys · #85 09-05-2013

Neal / Col.

Thinking of buying the parts based on this: http://www.hovership.com/2012/12/beg...-buying-guide/

But - with the KK board and the Turnigy TX and the 450 style frame.

Any problems with it ? The speedo's are only 10 amp - is this a problem ?

Cheers guys.

Andy

mr emily · #86 09-05-2013

I bought the Heliguy Viper, so small, so much fun.

Its hard to fly in confined space ie my living room, Good laugh though!!

Shifta · #87 09-05-2013

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Originally Posted by mr emily

I bought the Heliguy Viper, so small, so much fun.

Its hard to fly in confined space ie my living room, Good laugh though!!

I have one of these little beauty's too, in pro mode outdoors it's amazing! Even in medium winds it is really stable!
I'm not sure how this compares to flying an expensive quad but it has really helped me get used 3D flight and for £40 it's not the end of the world if you crash it!

neallewis · #88 09-05-2013

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Originally Posted by andys

Neal / Col.

Thinking of buying the parts based on this: http://www.hovership.com/2012/12/beg...-buying-guide/ -
looks like this kit will be the same, just a different frame: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...rol_Board.html

But - with the KK board and the Turnigy TX and the 450 style frame.

Any problems with it ? The speedo's are only 10 amp - is this a problem ?

Cheers guys.

Andy

I quite fancy a play now with a KK 2.0 board, the hobbyking one. was thinking about making up a micro-sized quad with it, similar to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GI5WUroedw

The HK Q450 frame is a direct copy of the DJI F450 frame, just much cheaper.

I'd also look at their SK450 frame: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ame_450mm.html
there are quite a few option parts for it, deadcat mod, etc: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...450_Parts.html

also check the various HK Talon frames.

You will crash and break a few arms setting set up. Something where you can get arms quickly/cheaply would help. or buy a few spares when you pick your frame.

The build guides you've linked both look fine and look to be decent quads.
I'd go for ESCs in the 25-30A range, ones that allow you to change the firmware, as that seems to be the done thing. The DJI kit 30A OPTO ones just come done, but I suspect they are similar to some hobby king units.

I'd just recommend you get a turnigy 9x radio though, over the orange/spectrum/JR based ones seem to be susceptible to interference. At least there is a good upgrade path to FrSky modules when you want with the turnigy, although the orange could be hacked with the DHT module too.

Just remember to do your hobbyking orders in smaller chunks, as not to get stung with lots of duty. and buy the cells (and anything else they have in stock) from the UK warehouse, again no duty to pay.

Looking forward to hearing from Col's progress and seeing his fly.

neallewis · #89 09-05-2013

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Originally Posted by neallewis

I quite fancy a play now with a KK 2.0 board, the hobbyking one. was thinking about making up a micro-sized quad with it, similar to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GI5WUroedw

Actually this: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...rol_Board.html
Although the frame is meant to be junk. I'd probably build my own.

HK UK warehouse has the KK2 board in stock :-)

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Originally Posted by neallewis

The build guides you've linked both look fine and look to be decent quads.
I'd go for ESCs in the 25-30A range, ones that allow you to change the firmware, as that seems to be the done thing. The DJI kit 30A OPTO ones just come done, but I suspect they are similar to some hobby king units.

From what i've read, you want to get ESCs that can be flashed with SimonK firmware on them.

This gives detailed specs on the HK units: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...BQkZZRlE#gid=0

Also this seems to cover los of details about flashing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZsT0agRZMY

I believe these F-30A ESC's are a really good choice: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=15205

andys · #90 11-05-2013

Arghhhhhhhh.

This deciding lark is killing me!

Every time I think i've made a decision - something comes along and makes me reconsider.

Eg.

The ESC's that Col bought have lots of posts about them burning out - putting out 11v on the BEC and frying controllers / motors etc. Also stuff I have read says many ESC's are for fixed wing and not Quad's which causes them to fail.

There's not an obvious ESC choice and this SimonK stuff just makes it more complicated

Too much choice of motors, and how to match motors to props etc is confusing.

So....

I thought i'd decided to buy this:
http://www.buildyourowndrone.co.uk/D...i-fquadkit.htm

Then buy a KK board / Turnigy TX set & lipo's from hobbyking. At least doing it this way I know the ESC / Motors / Props will work well together and spares are available easily in the UK.

Then I saw this - found it from looking at a seller on ebay selling them for £130, but obviously I could just buy it direct - http://www.rctimer.com/index.php?gOo...6&productname=

Very tempting - what should I do guys !?

Also, what do I do re the BEC with the speedo's - with the DJI kit I need to add an external one, but what do you do if all 4 (other brand) ESC's are pumping 5V to the receiver !

learnerdriver · #91 11-05-2013

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Originally Posted by andys

Arghhhhhhhh.

This deciding lark is killing me!

Every time I think i've made a decision - something comes along and makes me reconsider.

Eg.

The ESC's that Col bought have lots of posts about them burning out - putting out 11v on the BEC and frying controllers / motors etc. Also stuff I have read says many ESC's are for fixed wing and not Quad's which causes them to fail.

There's not an obvious ESC choice and this SimonK stuff just makes it more complicated

Too much choice of motors, and how to match motors to props etc is confusing.

So....

I thought i'd decided to buy this:
http://www.buildyourowndrone.co.uk/D...i-fquadkit.htm

Then buy a KK board / Turnigy TX set & lipo's from hobbyking. At least doing it this way I know the ESC / Motors / Props will work well together and spares are available easily in the UK.

Then I saw this - found it from looking at a seller on ebay selling them for £130, but obviously I could just buy it direct - http://www.rctimer.com/index.php?gOo...6&productname=

Very tempting - what should I do guys !?

Also, what do I do re the BEC with the speedo's - with the DJI kit I need to add an external one, but what do you do if all 4 (other brand) ESC's are pumping 5V to the receiver !

find best price for dji phantom, click buy now, assemble and fly - job done

no more will i wont i lol

learnerdriver · #92 11-05-2013

think of all the flying time you are wasting ;-)

they are tough little buggers - mine has survived a few big crashes

lots of mods and upgrades coming through for them as well

andys · #93 12-05-2013

Phantom is tempting - but a lot of cash

This looks amazing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=the7W...e_gdata_player

Anyone know if it's $1000 ish for the phantom and Gimbal - or is he saying $1000 just for the gimbal !!!!!!

simon · #94 12-05-2013

Quadcopter and some parts in the for sale section guys!

Danny Harrison · #95 12-05-2013

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Originally Posted by andys

Phantom is tempting - but a lot of cash

This looks amazing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=the7W...e_gdata_player

Anyone know if it's $1000 ish for the phantom and Gimbal - or is he saying $1000 just for the gimbal !!!!!!

A dji phantom is up on the modelsport forums, brand new with the gimbal for 400 quid

andys · #96 12-05-2013

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Originally Posted by Danny Harrison

A dji phantom is up on the modelsport forums, brand new with the gimbal for 400 quid

It's sold - and not to me

Steve Ball · #97 12-05-2013

Peter King just north of Wolverhampton makes up Hobbyking kits with the Ardupilot 2.5 flight controller. I have one of his setup's and for £270 which includes GPS to do waypoints etc. You honestly cannot go far wrong for the money.

andys · #98 12-05-2013

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Originally Posted by Steve Ball

Peter King just north of Wolverhampton makes up Hobbyking kits with the Ardupilot 2.5 flight controller. I have one of his setup's and for £270 which includes GPS to do waypoints etc. You honestly cannot go far wrong for the money.

Hi mate.

Could you PM me his details

Cheers
Andy