MRT to launch their own Decoder for PT's ?

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by knighthawk

Why ?
As stated so many times before
Mylaps RC4 Decoders are backward compatible with AMB/Mylaps transponders

MRT are the only issue here, they rip off a genuine product, undercut that product to sell it to racers.

Think of this as going down the market and buying a knock off Rolex
It's never going to work as a genuine item and Rolex won't support cheap imitations and the Customs stop them at the border.

I think it good the Mylaps as a company doesn't hold MRT accountable for cloning their products and coding.

Originally Posted by knighthawk

This will pull the our sport apart.
The older established clubs have AMB/Mylaps Decoders and will see no benefit from buying the rc4 decoder.
New or young clubs will have to go rc4 to get auto lap counting for their club.
There is gonna be a divide and the Racer will suffer, potentially now you will have to buy two types of PT. one for clubs who run rc4 and keep your mrt for ones who dont
Anyone with sense will see this is not good for us all.

simple

mrt are not a rip off, there a compatable item, or they would call em amb cheaper
your rolax example would be classed as a fake/replica hence why customs get involved

the "new system" effects many racers, this new decoder is not good for the sport of model car racing and in your words will tear it apart..

[mark christopher]

This is part of the reply from mrt,

" It looks like inaccurate speculation based on the fact that as has been stated we are continuing our research into possible future system designs that would benefit all users of transponders for cars, bikes, boats etc"

[alteredoggy]

mrt are not a rip off, there a compatable item

not all that compatable, if they wont work with the new decoder

[MattW]

Ironically, this "issue" proves that MRT didn't copy" AMB, as if they had, they would work with the RC4 decoder

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by alteredoggy

not all that compatable, if they wont work with the new decoder

hence why many clubs are not going to rc4, folk that are new can buy mrt or harry and no change needed!

[terry.sc]

Originally Posted by knighthawk

This will pull the our sport apart.
The older established clubs have AMB/Mylaps Decoders and will see no benefit from buying the MRT decoder.
New or young clubs will see the cheaper decoder as a good option to get auto lap counting for their club.
There is gonna be a divide and the Racer will suffer, potentially now you will have to buy two types of PT.
Anyone with sense will see this is not good for us all.

Well this already happens. As a cheap option there are a few clubs that run the I-Laps infra red system for lap counting. My own club uses our own built lap counting system. Yes, the small minority of us who race elsewhere have an AMB or MRT transponder as well, but the majority of club members quite happily race each week on our own handouts or transponders they have bought for a fraction of the price of an AMB.

[terry.sc]

Originally Posted by knighthawk

MRT are the only issue here, they rip off a genuine product, undercut that product to sell it to racers.

They don't look like AMBs and aren't advertised as AMBs, we all know we are buying MRTs so the racers aren't being ripped off at all. Claiming the MRTs are ripping off a genuine product is the same as claiming the Ultima RB5 is ripping off the B4, or every touring car is ripping off the TRF415 because they do the same job..

MRTs do cost AMB in lost sales, but then I don't consider the decoders good value for money either. £2500 for the decoder, with the only option if it breaks down outside of warranty is to buy a new one at full price. Transponders that used to cost £95 when MRT could sell you one that could do the same for half the price, even though they don't have the production scale that AMB has. The amount of price gouging due to their monopoly position is fairly obvious when you look at the 45% discount for trading in an MRT. If AMB had priced their transponders more reasonably in the first place there would not have been a gap in the market for MRT to fill.

[cmgreen]

Originally Posted by terry.sc

If AMB had priced their transponders more reasonably in the first place there would not have been a gap in the market for MRT to fill.

[MattW]

MRT's "gap" in the market was cloning - i.e being able to have multiple transponders of the same number. In reality this is all they do.

They either clone a racers own transponder and provide them with multiple transponders of the same number (this isn't just a UK thing, many of the worlds top drivers use the PTX for this reason) - or - they clone the AMB transponders that they own, and sell them to people that don't have one already.

[Chequered Flag Racing]

MRT new's

http://oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129702

[mark christopher]

Any you sat next to one at cars shootout