Problems with 210 Ball Diff

[hopsing]

Originally Posted by OneKiwi

There was the same problem on rctech which truned out to be the circlip poping out when he tightned it and diff not working then when he took it apart the circlip poped back in in the process of dismanteling it.

I still think that people should check the thrust washers as there is different diameters, the larger one (difference is only about .3mm) should go against the thrust washer to get maximal contact when screwed against it.

You mean the larger thrust washer needs to go against the snap ring....the smaller one goes inside the diff first.

Check out the new diff build guide on the TD website... http://www.team-durango.com/blog/201...ild-guide-pt1/ Tells you exactly how to build the diff and getting it working properly.

I've got 4 full race days (about 23 battery packs) through my STOCK diff...balls and thrusts, and its still as smooth as day one.

[OliOC]

I have to say I'm kind of intrigued by the Associated gear diff, as I'm of the mentality that it's one less thing to go wrong - plus, I'm unsure as to what setup advantages you get by using a ball diff (I know they are slightly lighter in weight, but surely a gear diff is more tuneable with different viscosity oils?)

Can anyone tell me, is there any difference between the gear diff recommended (the Associated AS9827 Sc10/B4.1 Gear diff) and the Associated SC10 4x4 Gear diff AS91008. I guess there is as they're different part numbers...

[lockmouth]

The SC10 4x4 is 32 pitch.

[OliOC]

Originally Posted by lockmouth

The SC10 4x4 is 32 pitch.

Thank you!

[OneKiwi]

Hopsing:

Yes thats right, its so the smaller diameter washer doesn't have pressure on the inside dia. of the clip. The larger on squeezes against the outside area of the clip and hopefully if its in the right way round will then in turn push the clip against the groove that its sitting in

[jamiekerr14]

Ran the AE 2WD SC10 gear diff in my 210 today at Torch, and cant say it felt much different-Mainly as it was damp and slippy. But it feels great and has bed in nicely. I have just used loads of shims, but will be ordering the flanged bearings. If anyone like's gear diffs, its a route to go down. Im not a massive fan of ball diffs, As i'm a 1/8th racer at heart and love geared diffs. Just thought I would share my opinions on it so far.

[martin so16]

Originally Posted by jamiekerr14

Ran the AE 2WD SC10 gear diff in my 210 today at Torch, and cant say it felt much different-Mainly as it was damp and slippy. But it feels great and has bed in nicely. I have just used loads of shims, but will be ordering the flanged bearings. If anyone like's gear diffs, its a route to go down. Im not a massive fan of ball diffs, As i'm a 1/8th racer at heart and love geared diffs. Just thought I would share my opinions on it so far.

jamie does it fit straight on to the durango bearings or did you use ae ones on it ?

[jamiekerr14]

Hey Martin-I used the stock Rango bearings but I had to use loads of TD shims tbh. More than I would be comfortable leaving it like that. It worked fine today, But I will be trying out the flanged bearings that was posted on the page before this. As that will then take away alot of the space.

[martin so16]

Originally Posted by jamiekerr14

Hey Martin-I used the stock Rango bearings but I had to use loads of TD shims tbh. More than I would be comfortable leaving it like that. It worked fine today, But I will be trying out the flanged bearings that was posted on the page before this. As that will then take away alot of the space.

ok cheers mate will take a look

[AmiSMB]

I ran the SC10 diff in the TLR 22 and have taken it out to try in the 210 and will test it at some point. I found it verty good but have to say I am finding the 210 ball diff very good at the moment.

[jamiekerr14]

Originally Posted by martin so16

ok cheers mate will take a look

No worries buddy

[aztecz]

Originally Posted by jamiekerr14

No worries buddy

Hotshot.. Can you point me to a shop that have 'em in stock?

[jamiekerr14]

JE Sp*res

Part Number -9827

[OliOC]

Easy Jamie,

Hope you're well mate? Just wondering what shims and oil you put in your diff?

I haven't run mine yet, but have put 2k oil in it and 1 shim behind each of the sun gears.

Az will testify how much I hate diff gears (I think he rebuilt my tc one more than I did!) so thought I'd just save myself the hassle of having to deal with the ball diff!

[jamiekerr14]

Hey Oli! Yeah i'm good thanks pal!

Yeah im with you on the ball diff front.. cant be dealing with that!

I ran loads of the stock-Durango diff shims in mine.. and a few home made shims to pack it out. But have ordered a set of these bearings to use, then I think you should only need a couple of shims on each side if you run the flanged bearings. In the page before this one from JE.

It was noticeably more punch on initial accel- like the 410 is compared to other cars on the start line. And its very fit and forget unlike ball diffs. Which in my view are too much hassle for very minimal gain if any imho. I ran 3k on sunday, but have dropped it down to 1k to try this weekend to see. As that is what a few of the TD Team have run when they have run diffs. But its mainly for trial tbh. It was to wet to get much of a feel of the 3k if i'm honest.
Hope this helps bud!

Jamie

[mjk37]

IF built to Spec the Durango ball diff is the best I have ever used 6 races on it and took a look today and everything is a good as the day I built it and still smooth as silk.

[OliOC]

Originally Posted by jamiekerr14

Hey Oli! Yeah i'm good thanks pal!

Yeah im with you on the ball diff front.. cant be dealing with that!

I ran loads of the stock-Durango diff shims in mine.. and a few home made shims to pack it out. But have ordered a set of these bearings to use, then I think you should only need a couple of shims on each side if you run the flanged bearings. In the page before this one from JE.

It was noticeably more punch on initial accel- like the 410 is compared to other cars on the start line. And its very fit and forget unlike ball diffs. Which in my view are too much hassle for very minimal gain if any imho. I ran 3k on sunday, but have dropped it down to 1k to try this weekend to see. As that is what a few of the TD Team have run when they have run diffs. But its mainly for trial tbh. It was to wet to get much of a feel of the 3k if i'm honest.
Hope this helps bud!

Jamie

Cheers dude!

What I actually meant was, what shims have you used inside the diff, behind the big gears - they supply you with 2 large shims for each side to help take up and play in the diff, but it was tight as when I fitted both of them so I have just used one on each side?

Already got the flanges bearings and with them you just need to use 10 0.2mm shims (5 on each side) so its not too bad.

[jamiekerr14]

Oh right, Um.. I think I fitted it like the manual suggests.. it did feel a tad tight if im honest. But after sundays use it has bedded in really nice.

[OliOC]

Cool, so you used both shims behind each gear. From what I read you can add the second shim once you rebuild, but I couldn't really work out what they were going on about!

[jamiekerr14]

I did it as the manual said I think, I cant remember seeing any shims left over tbh.. but then again it was late at night when I did it haha