Newcastle R.C. Racers @ TyneMet

[cheapskate]

Good to see another good turn out last night,
Mark if the numbers stay like this i think there will no other choice but to split the classes into two heats- buggies was mental last night

[lazysurfer]

Originally Posted by cheapskate

Good to see another good turn out last night,
Mark if the numbers stay like this i think there will no other choice but to split the classes into two heats- buggies was mental last night

Depends how many we get Mal - like I say the track is easily big enough for 10 in a heat, it's the differeing abilities which pose the issue. Paul has suggested maybe a mixed class heat for the newer drivers which would allow 3 heats in the same situation with even numbers and is probably worth a go.
We've actually run a mixed race once before and over a lap the difference between a TC and buggy in the hands of evenly matched drivers is very little if at all. Buggies blast the straight while TC's are more nimble in the corners.

[Steven Forster]

Originally Posted by lazysurfer

Depends how many we get Mal - like I say the track is easily big enough for 10 in a heat, it's the differeing abilities which pose the issue. Paul has suggested maybe a mixed class heat for the newer drivers which would allow 3 heats in the same situation with even numbers and is probably worth a go.
We've actually run a mixed race once before and over a lap the difference between a TC and buggy in the hands of evenly matched drivers is very little if at all. Buggies blast the straight while TC's are more nimble in the corners.

I thought it was a really good turn out for the buggies and a good laugh at times albeit a bit chaotic when we crashed and as said the ability of the drivers (me) arnt as good as others and sometimes found myself getting in the way of faster drivers and having to pull over when i could.............wont be back till the 26th (stupid shifts)

[beasty boys motorsport]

Originally Posted by dexter24

I thought it was a really good turn out for the buggies and a good laugh at times albeit a bit chaotic when we crashed and as said the ability of the drivers (me) arnt as good as others and sometimes found myself getting in the way of faster drivers and having to pull over when i could.............wont be back till the 26th (stupid shifts)

dont worry steve, im back on monday....so i'll hold everyone up in your absense one day i might get quick enough to complete 6 laps in a heat

[TangerineDream]

Originally Posted by lazysurfer

Depends how many we get Mal - like I say the track is easily big enough for 10 in a heat, it's the differeing abilities which pose the issue. Paul has suggested maybe a mixed class heat for the newer drivers which would allow 3 heats in the same situation with even numbers and is probably worth a go.
We've actually run a mixed race once before and over a lap the difference between a TC and buggy in the hands of evenly matched drivers is very little if at all. Buggies blast the straight while TC's are more nimble in the corners.

I think its worth trying this in the first instance if we need to, if it doesnt work we can then look to run 4 heats, would be a shame to loose a round if we dont need to, one option to get 5 rounds of 4 heats would be to reduce the gap between races but use alternate marshalling, i.e. you will always be free the race after and before your own which should make things less hectic as both marshalls and drivers should in theory have time to be ready

[Steven Forster]

Originally Posted by beasty boys motorsport

dont worry steve, im back on monday....so i'll hold everyone up in your absense one day i might get quick enough to complete 6 laps in a heat

nice one paul...............

[TangerineDream]

Originally Posted by TangerineDream

I think its worth trying this in the first instance if we need to, if it doesnt work we can then look to run 4 heats, would be a shame to loose a round if we dont need to, one option to get 5 rounds of 4 heats would be to reduce the gap between races but use alternate marshalling, i.e. you will always be free the race after and before your own which should make things less hectic as both marshalls and drivers should in theory have time to be ready

If we do the maths, and have 4 heats of 5 mins with 1 min gap per heat thats 24mins per round, which is the same as 3 heats of 5 mins and a 3 min gap per heat. Piece of p1ss!!

[R5 racer]

Returning from the USA next week, where about is this track? Postal addy would be good.
Thanks

Originally Posted by lazysurfer

Gentlemen

Well we had our first race meet at the new venue last night and it went very well!
4 of us there for doors opening at 7 with another five arriving within minutes enabled us to have the track set up by 7;30 with the first heat on the line at 7:40.
11 of us in total racing last night with a few notable absences - where were the rest of you – but on the plus side, 2 old members turned up to see what was going on and have promised to come back to race (see you next week Colin & Paul) Also a young lad who has a car and his dad who had a play with Johns old car and who seem keen to come back.

Strangely we were short of buggies for the first time in a long while, ending up running two TC heats with Mr Hindson opting to run his TC rather than buggy. He did however revert to the buggy by round 3 as he wasn’t winning resulting in a mixed heat and very good close mixed racing. Even them he had to lengthen the straight on which he had the speed advantage in order to eventually win! (any more cheating measures you could come up with for next week will NOT be welcome!)
We WILL be back to running buggy heats next week I imagine – with jumps if that’s what is preferred.

The floor was clean with a fair amount of grip and more importantly was very predictable enabling nice controlled 4 wheel drifting without nasty surprises mid corner – so who is going to be the first to try rally blocks?

The podium issue seems to have resolved it’s self with the gym’s benches being arranged to certainly provide an adequate platform although not perfect.

Last final finished by 9:30 and we were out of the hall by 9:50 so all in all a very good first nights racing there – now lets get the numbers up, we need 15 racers to cover the cost of the hall at £5 each per meet!

Ross & Dytham take note of the start & finish times for RACING – we’d rather you ducked set up or clear up than ducking racing altogether!

Gripes, suggestions and new racers are very welcome!

Hope to see more of you there next week

Mark

[FastWheels]

A probable no to mixed heats for me.

Seems to be an obsession to run as many rounds as possible without regard to addressing the Leisure aspect but rather looking to an ever increasing hectic schedule as an objective, this is supposed to be enjoyable hobby where some kind of social interaction adds another dimension as against trying to emulate a chaotic sweat shop mentality.

The club may become a victim of its own success with continual badgering to increase membership to cover costs then expecting to get that proverbial quart into a pint pot, this strategy may well alienate some members especially those wishing to enjoy the night rather than be obsessed with productivity.

The not so serious bit

Restricting membership and enforcing a qualifying time will eliminate those problematic slow racers thus allowing time for 10 rounds, & time between heats for chip butties, those eliminated during qualifying can then be used to marshall,

solved!!

Back to the serious bit

Alternate marshalling - it seems a struggle now to get the marshalls out and well placed on the track with a system everyone understands never mind introducing a seemingly more complicated alternative, while everyone would like a longer night with more rounds there needs to be a balance between what may be theoretically possible and what may be more comfortably achievable.

With the track being close to the The podium it's often difficult to see past other drivers as everyone leans out to gain a view of their car.
The design with the straight being up against the wall prevents any marshalls taking up position over the full length of the hall meaning a 20yard dash at times to marshall, it would be advantageous to reasses this aspect of the design (Track design & Build = Very Good Effort & Execution Bravo GuyZ).
Right lets get charging for next week!!

[FastWheels]

Originally Posted by R5 racer

Returning from the USA next week, where about is this track? Postal addy would be good.
Thanks

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?oe=utf...e&ved=0CAQQ_BI

looking at the TyneMet location shown it's the White Building on the lower right

Tyne Metropolitan College

• Battle Hill Drive
• Wallsend
• NE28 9NL

Follow the line of ST Focuses
hope this helps

[Ray Mac]

Originally Posted by FastWheels

A probable no to mixed heats for me.

Originally Posted by FastWheels

Seems to be an obsession to run as many rounds as possible without regard to addressing the Leisure aspect but rather looking to an ever increasing hectic schedule as an objective, this is supposed to be enjoyable hobby where some kind of social interaction adds another dimension as against trying to emulate a chaotic sweat shop mentality.

The club may become a victim of its own success with continual badgering to increase membership to cover costs then expecting to get that proverbial quart into a pint pot, this strategy may well alienate some members especially those wishing to enjoy the night rather than be obsessed with productivity.

Restricting membership and enforcing a qualifying time will eliminate those problematic slow racers thus allowing time for 10 rounds time between heats for chip butties, those eliminated during qualifying can then be used to marshall,

solved!!

Alternate marshalling - it seems a struggle now to get the marshalls out and well placed on the track with a system everyone understands never mind introducing a seemingly more complicated alternative, while everyone would like a longer night with more rounds there needs to be a balance between what may be theoretically possible and what may be more comfortably achievable.

With the track being close to the The podium it's often difficult to see past other drivers as everyone leans out to gain a view of their car.
The design with the straight being up against the wall prevents any marshalls taking up position over the full length of the hall meaning a 20yard dash at times to marshall, it would be advantageous to reasses this aspect of the design (Track design & Build = Very Good Effort & Execution Bravo GuyZ).
Right lets get charging for next week!!

Now you know what we're all up against. It IS a game Jim.
Welcome to enjoyable aggro.

The OLD PHART.

[baD]

Originally Posted by FastWheels

A probable no to mixed heats for me.

Restricting membership and enforcing a qualifying time will eliminate those problematic slow racers thus allowing time for 10 rounds time between heats for chip butties, those eliminated during qualifying can then be used to marshall,

solved!!

I read the above post with considerable interest, until I came to the bit quoted here and then couldn't decide if the whole post was just taking the piss! Eliminate the slow racers? What the h*** is that all about.

The hectic nature of racing at TM is one of the reasons I haven't been back, hardly time to alter the spring/ride height between races never mind actually fix something or change the tyres/wheels. (the other main reason is Monday is not a good day for me, but that's my problem, no one else's).
How anyone could race here themselves AND coach a kid to race is beyond me.

With the increased attendance, increased income, is it possible to extend the evening (at either end) without going over budget, to race longer and enjoy the 'leisure' activity a little more.?

[baD]

Originally Posted by Ray Mac

It IS a game Jim.

The OLD PHART.

No - it's life Jim, but not as we know it

[FastWheels]

Originally Posted by baD

I read the above post with considerable interest, until I came to the bit quoted here and then couldn't decide if the whole post was just taking the piss! Eliminate the slow racers? What the h*** is that all about.

Yeah that was a light hearted cynical throwaway.

[FastWheels]

Originally Posted by Ray Mac

[LEFT]


Now you know what we're all up against. It IS a game Jim.
Welcome to enjoyable aggro.

The OLD PHART.

Just reporting as is no aggro just a penchant for the truth....

It is out there somewhere (so I'm told)

Must have been a good post got the oldun awake

Less of your LIPo

[TangerineDream]

Simply offering some suggested solutions to the issue guys, we can't get into the hall earlier due to the zumba and can't leave later as the centre closes, we've already confirmed that nobody wants to loose a round of racing...... Would be helpful to the guys setting the meeting up to have a plan in place that the majority agrees with should we need it.........

[Ray Mac]

Jim! I ment the time at the club can be enjoyable, and aggro at the same time. Not all this written aggro.

[baD]

Originally Posted by FastWheels

Yeah that was a light hearted cynical throwaway.

cheers for that clarification - I'll always try to make sure I don't read something into posts that isn't there

[cheapskate]

Got to be honest i would rather drop a heat then run a mixed class.
Maybe we could run the same track layout for a set number of weeks then change it, then those that do actually turn up on time can set the track up in plenty time and know what they are doing,
maybe we could even fit extra heats in if everybody helped put the track away!!

Mal

[FastWheels]

Originally Posted by Ray Mac

Jim! I ment the time at the club can be enjoyable, and aggro at the same time. Not all this written aggro.

First the Pleasure then the Pain