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It will all be good fun when the racing starts. I am going to enable reverse on my esc to see how much it affect the brakes and if it generates extra heat,will try it out tomorrow.
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Can you show me a rule where it says you cant cut corners and drive the wrong way round the track ???

But i have a sneaky feeling (dont quote me on this though) that its not allowed either.
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But you don't always no if they have reverse if they are stationary for a few seconds! A good marshal would be halfway to the car before this time.

Can you look at a car and say straight away "oh it's ok, it has reverse" without it actually moving first?
we all know there are few good marshals and most are asleep
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we all know there are few good marshals and most are asleep
Its tiring racing for 5 mins
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lol then dont risk your ankle, let em use reverse , and re read post 65 i think you have miss read it


No Mr Christopher, I did not mis-read it. But further down the thread it does say that no one really noticed as no harm was done.
BUT, IF (its a big word ..if) I was to ruin someones race because I reversed into them, breaking their car, then it would become a more serious issue, and yes the person with the broken car would moan at me.

Also, it wouldn't be the only class that banned reverse. The Micro section have banned reverse....I know, as I fell foul of the rule when I used it at one of their events.

Lets stop bickering. The organisers will decide and we will have to abide by the rules that they decide.
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well as a long term contributor i supported the first rrci meeting at coventry where reverse was allowed, there were no problems then, i have experienced a big outdoor sc meeting and dont see why the rule is needed. i can apreciate in buggies cars can be damaged by hitting others sc are enclosed wheels with bumpers and side bars, if you and tel think your going to get a clean run without somone nudging you into a hose or putting you into a spin think again!
Yes I dare say we be put into a spin and nudged into a hose, but we are not going to stand there and cry about it and swear at people just because we don't have reverse! Wait to be marshalled, and carry on.
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Mark,

Just out of interest did you actually have a rule for the RRCI meeting that even mentioned reverse? I know we didn't for Short Course Carnage.

If the question hadn't been asked then we wouldn't be having this debate, and rightly or wrongly we would have races with some reversing trucks and some not.

Working all this out is all part of a new series I surpose

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ACTUALLY, thats a good point shaun!!!

if someone knows your truck doesn't have reverse then what is to stop someone purposefully putting you nose first into a hose?...knowing full well that if they have reverse and even end up next to you, then they will get away first?
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I got the feeling that you won't exactly need targets painted on your car for this series Mark... remember, rubbing is racing

Easy to spot with a big "R tard" sticker on the roof.

When you look at BRCA regs... there is a lot that can be taken for granted,

The thing is Mr Christopher... you know and see where we are all coming from
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Do you turn up at a 1/8th off road National and tell them one of there rules stink because they don't run the same rule in 1/10th off road National?

I doubt it!
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Can you show me a rule where it says you cant cut corners and drive the wrong way round the track ???

But i have a sneaky feeling (dont quote me on this though) that its not allowed either.
you did not want to ask that did you?


17.6
At the Refereesdiscretion, penalties can be incurred for bad driving and/or corner cutting with any
one of the following, depending on the severity of the offence: Official Warning, Stop-Go penalty (Nationals
Only), 5 or 10 second penalty, 1 lap penalty, disqualification. The Stop-Go penalty area must be well

defined and in a position that is practical to operate.


so your point was?
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The first thing you would notice is that they all have bigger cars
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If i'm the event referee does that mean i can drive how and where i want if i think its ok for me to do so?
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you did not want to ask that did you?



17.6
At the Refereesdiscretion, penalties can be incurred for bad driving and/or corner cutting with any

one of the following, depending on the severity of the offence: Official Warning, Stop-Go penalty (Nationals
Only), 5 or 10 second penalty, 1 lap penalty, disqualification. The Stop-Go penalty area must be well

defined and in a position that is practical to operate.


so your point was?

Technically, that was my point in an earlier post was it not?

Just tell people that if reverse is used then pnalties will be given?



Lets all let them decide.....then we can argue!!
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Do you turn up at a 1/8th off road National and tell them one of there rules stink because they don't run the same rule in 1/10th off road National?

I doubt it!

der 8th have been running for years and have a set of established rules, myself and others are questioning the ruling as other meetings have alowed it with no issues!
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yes,but don't reverse into the stop go penalty box.
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If i'm the event referee does that mean i can drive how and where i want if i think its ok for me to do so?
yes, and deduct laps from others and shoot anyone in reverse, this is silly
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Just don't tell mark that the "R" stickers to be fitted to the roof of reverse enabled SCT's are fitted to a paving slab!
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Like I say, lets let them decide first.
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lol, I'll give you that one mark

So, i would also go along with that rule and say that reversing into race traffic would be bad driving...... and the only way to prevent that is....... Yup. you guessed it........ Stop reverse from being used

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you did not want to ask that did you?


17.6
At the Refereesdiscretion, penalties can be incurred for bad driving and/or corner cutting with any
one of the following, depending on the severity of the offence: Official Warning, Stop-Go penalty (Nationals
Only), 5 or 10 second penalty, 1 lap penalty, disqualification. The Stop-Go penalty area must be well

defined and in a position that is practical to operate.


so your point was?
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