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Old 30-04-2010
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Again im no expert but

Id go for

Build diff's - tighten until they do no slip in yr hands - hold a tiny screwdriver through the slot in eack diff halve (outdrive whatever u wana call it) hold the drivers flat on a table - diff hanging over the edge - then tr to turn the diff gear - if it moves tighten it...

Shove it back in the car - hold one wheel an blast the other - check diff it will be looser - so tighten a bit

Good check whilst in the car is to lock the wheels - try to tun spur with yr thumb - if the spur slips in the slipper then the slipper will slip before the diff does when driving...

I doubt the diff has much to do with it slipping on sand on a track - at a guess id try removing the rear anti roll bar you said you are using - may help a little
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Re build the diffs and set them to what is suggested in the manual and then next time you are at the track get one of the expirenced drivers to check them over.
well that's the plan
but it would be nice to get some more info on them

thx shanks
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Old 30-04-2010
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One very easy thing to try - ask to borrow someone else's car for a few laps.

If you can drive it fine - it's YOUR car setup.

If it handles as YOUR car does - it's your thumbs.


Simples.

Other than rebuilding the diffs, and setting them to the factory settings, this is the best advice yet.
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Carbo, my personal setup on a fairly slippery outdoor track (clay with some sandy parts) for diffs was: rear, as per the manual (1/8 turn off of full tight) and front 1/16 turn off of full tight. My diffs were always smooth feeling or I would clean and rebuild them. They never slipped and always worked well ( I don't know if they could have been better as I didn't play too much with this setting). It could be a starting point for you for setting the diffs.

Obviously, no setup will settle the problem IF it is due to poor driving skills. But I think you know that already... That you can only judge (I have no idea how good or bad a driver you are) for yourself and work on as possible.

Other priority items I would look into are Tire selection and wear. Slipper clutch sdjustment as a very tight slipper does exactly what you are describing. Weight distribution. Ride height adjustement. Then all the rest of the little components that will add up to better handling in those slippery conditions.

Anyways, that's how I would go about it first... Once you're certain you've done everything possible to improve your driving skill in regards to that tricky spot...

Anyways, I'm out of here. With all due respect to the different posters who contributed to this discussion, I don't appreciate the tones being used here...

Good luck!
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With all due respect to the different posters who contributed to this discussion, I don't appreciate the tones being used here...
ya know, you could have said all of that 3 hours earlier instead of lecturing then (and now).
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Old 01-05-2010
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tnx for the help codman
i think you're tips are a good starting point
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I would just suggest rebuilding the diff's as per manual and spend a few years just driving it like that. Any tiny improvement you might get from adjusting the diff lots will be more than you lose with one missed apex during the race.

As long as the car is working correctly and you've got a 'normal' setup on the car then that's enough for most drivers as realistically time would be better spent improving their own skills instead of adjusting the car so much it's never the same for each run.
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