Major understeer

[ashleyb4]

Its very odd because certain corners i was fine but corner 2 wasnt that tight and i was strugerling around it but the next corner was tighter and i didnt have a problem. I just didnt seem to have to lockeven when i was going slow i strugled.

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[Southwell]

If you drive too fast into a corner then it will tend to push wide, if you have uber grip ull just grip roll. The idea is to brake and turn tight, then you can get on the power quickly as you arn't miles off line.

[rich_cree]

Could be the steering horn (not one on servo, the other one), they can be a bit soft

[Southwell]

Id also check the servo throw each side.

[ashleyb4]

I treid it slow but i still wasnt any where near the racing line you could have driven two cars side by side up the inside of me. Which i wouldnt have minded normaly but there was a piece of pipe straight afterwards. Ill draw you a pic.

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[Wraggy]

Originally Posted by ashleyb4

Its very odd because certain corners i was fine but corner 2 wasnt that tight and i was strugerling around it but the next corner was tighter and i didnt have a problem. I just didnt seem to have to lockeven when i was going slow i strugled.

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remember ash the 2nd corner was coming off from tarmac to grass and the speed carried was a lot more..

[ashleyb4]

Im the blue line the black is what most other people where doing


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[ashleyb4]

My steering goes full left and full right all the way .

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[ashleyb4]

I think ill just have to try and slow it down even more into there and see how it goes.

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[bigred5765]

looks like ur carrying to much speed into the corner

[Lew]

Thanks southwell. Wonder'd that for a long while.

[losixxx]

ashley, we were watching your car in the final, the only thing wrong with it was you were going into most corners far to fast, especially the corner you say you were having problems with, every lap was the same way to much speed into the corner then try an brake but to late. the only set-up i would change is move the front shocks on the tower out one hole and 35 weight oil in front.
but biggest change i would make if i was you is slow down=less crashing=faster overall time.
i ran my old cells to calm my xx4 down, went up a pinion to normal was one of the slowest cars on the track on the straight but because i didnt crash as the car was drivable i had a good day

[Swiss]

Ash

Looking at that set up, I would suggest the following things;

1. Go up 5wt oil in the rear shocks.
2. Lengthen the front camber link, (so instead of putting it on the middle hole on the shock tower put it on the inner).
3. Regarding speed, well I didn't see your car, but if overgeared you will kill all the bottom end, and find that the power kicks in later on the throttle curve causing the car to accelerate mid corner... which can cause overshooting problems?? But to be perfectly honest, I would try no. 1 and no. 2 first.... Because if the speed feels right for you then it is..

Also regarding throw on the steering, you should always set your steering throw so that it is over the mechanical end stops... approx. 5-10%

[Southwell]

Originally Posted by Swiss

Also regarding throw on the steering, you should always set your steering throw so that it is over the mechanical end stops... approx. 5-10%

Explain? If you set it over the actual range that the steering can go then you will have a smooth action until the last bit when it will just flick instead of being smooth, you are also putting extra strain on the servo.
The only reason i can think of doing this is to keep the wheels at full lock when at speed, if you need to do this then i would say your servo isn't strong enough.

[Swiss]

However strong the servo is there is still back lash in the steering parts. I totally agree the reason for this, is becuase on power the front wheels naturally want to straighten, and haven that bit of excess will assure you can keep the car in the corner on power..... Basically set it up so the last little bit o movement on your sticks, is effectively like a dead band which the wheels have reached full lock, but as mentioned earlier will make sure when you are on power you can keep the wheels at full lock...

[ashleyb4]

I think i need to slow it down a bit im so used to 2wd i can normally throw it in the pretty fast.

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[BenG]

Originally Posted by ashleyb4

I think i need to slow it down a bit im so used to 2wd i can normally throw it in the pretty fast.

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Yeah Ash slow down. Think smooth too. Smoother driving is much better on parts, and keeps you calm. You don't need to chuck a 4wd into corners, as it's got 2 more driven wheels.....

I always find, a smooth driver is much better than a ragged driver, as it gives you more time to avoid mistakes e.t.c

But, if you want to be ragged and turn lots, increase the percentage of steering response ( How quickly it turns ).

In a touring car, I have about 60% on carpet, sometimes less due to a open track e.t.c

In a buggy I have it at 50% I think.

[Swiss]

Originally Posted by BenG

Yeah Ash slow down. Think smooth too. Smoother driving is much better on parts, and keeps you calm. You don't need to chuck a 4wd into corners, as it's got 2 more driven wheels.....

I always find, a smooth driver is much better than a ragged driver, as it gives you more time to avoid mistakes e.t.c

But, if you want to be ragged and turn lots, increase the percentage of steering response ( How quickly it turns ).

In a touring car, I have about 60% on carpet, sometimes less due to a open track e.t.c

In a buggy I have it at 50% I think.

Winding up the steering response will only make it 'feel' differant, it doesn't give you more steering? Problem is if you are winding up the steering response that much, (I presume you mean +50%) all the steering will be round the centre..... meaning on sweepers, it will be hard to control the amount of steering you are feeding in.....

[BenG]

Originally Posted by Swiss

Winding up the steering response will only make it 'feel' differant, it doesn't give you more steering? Problem is if you are winding up the steering response that much, (I presume you mean +50%) all the steering will be round the centre..... meaning on sweepers, it will be hard to control the amount of steering you are feeding in.....

No, but it will turn 'faster' so you can 'throw' it at corners more

[Lee]

Lovin the pic ash but to me it looks like your turning after the corner, slow down and make sure you hit the apex!!

Slow is fast