trf 2wd rumor

[Fredrik Emilsson]

I should have written "What did you expect"...

[DaveG28]

Originally Posted by Carno

What i'd have expected in a 2wd TRF; mid-motored, belt driven, carbon chassis and offcourse blue alu bits. Basicly like all the other TRF cars.

It'd probably look great. But that wouldn't make it a good car to race.

Can I ask, why mid motored? I mean why assume it? The current world champ = rear motor. Current Euro's champ (driven by a trf guy at the time) = rear motor. Why the obsession with mid?? What's been winning in Japan, rear or mid?

Edit: Actually what did win in SA worlds?

[mof]

Originally Posted by DaveG28

Can I ask, why mid motored? I mean why assume it? The current world champ = rear motor. Current Euro's champ (driven by a trf guy at the time) = rear motor. Why the obsession with mid?? What's been winning in Japan, rear or mid?

Edit: Actually what did win in SA worlds?

And judging from the pics I have seen of the new Durango 2wd, Hupo likes to keep it rear motored too, even though it has the option to go mid motor. Depends on the track I guess.

[Carno]

Originally Posted by DaveG28

Can I ask, why mid motored? I mean why assume it? The current world champ = rear motor. Current Euro's champ (driven by a trf guy at the time) = rear motor. Why the obsession with mid?? What's been winning in Japan, rear or mid?

Edit: Actually what did win in SA worlds?

It's not an obsession for me. Personally i don't really see why the rear motor is such a bad thing but I don't have any experience with 2wd's myself.
But at my track almost every serious driver has an X6 and a few cougar SV's are underway.
Basicly with the current flow going for mid that's what i'd have expected.
Wasn't a judgement -on performance- from my side.

I heard one of the X6 drivers that saw lee's car without the body on. Saying it was basicly a B4 with some bits modified and that he wasn't very impressed.
But then again the X6 is based on the B4 aswell so...

My only worry is the cost. If it is a lot like the B4 can Tamiya match the cost of one.
Assuming it is more expensive will the changes they have made justify the difference in price.

[B44&501xRacerEX]

Originally Posted by sebus

one thing is sure is that the trf 2wd have not the mid motor.......lol

You even type like Yoda...lol
Whatever this car's gonna be it will be pretty bad arsh!
Tamiya's plastic is it not like Ae plastic.......no
If it's gonna have carbon fiber bling bling....no

Classy tamiya plastic......yes
Jimmy and Vickie are on facebook!

[Fredrik Emilsson]

Originally Posted by Carno

I heard one of the X6 drivers that saw lee's car without the body on. Saying it was basicly a B4 with some bits modified and that he wasn't very impressed.

I wonder if he could see any difference between B4 and RB5?

[5POINTSTAR]

Originally Posted by Fredrik Emilsson

I wonder if he could see any difference between B4 and RB5?

Thank you for that post. I remember on another website (RCt**h) B4 and XXX-CR drivers/owners were bashing the RB5 for looking similar. How many ways can you make a competition 2WD buggy? Rhetorical question..

[94eg!]

They ALL look like JRX-Pro SE's to me...

[Migs]

lol except these days we dont mount the servo sideways and we dont just use servo tape. but your point is i think where everyone is heading, its a 2wd buggy, there havnt been significant advances in a long time, a xxcr can still keep up with the current crop of cars, there just isnt a lot you can do unless you go mid motor like the x6, as soon as u choose to do rear motor, ur layout is basically decided for you by default, the only thing the designers can do is make the car easy to drive and tuneable enough for all conditions. I think tamiya have probably gone in a good direction, lets say the car ends up being as good as, or slightly better than the B4 because its a bit more refined and desinged with lipo and brushless in mind, all the tamiya fans will buy one, because they wont lose out switching to it, then others who are looking for the next car will put it on the potential list along with the rb5

[ralphee]

Think logical for a minute, why reinvent the wheel with it.....sound fair?
Its using a tried and trusted layout, with possibly tweaked geometry.....if they were to go for anything too radical, we'd all be thumbing our noses at it and its possible complete failure at any form of comp level.....i say fair play to Tamiya.

lee

[Migs]

Originally Posted by ralphee

Think logical for a minute, why reinvent the wheel with it.....sound fair?
Its using a tried and trusted layout, with possibly tweaked geometry.....if they were to go for anything too radical, we'd all be thumbing our noses at it and its possible complete failure at any form of comp level.....i say fair play to Tamiya.

lee

Exactly

[Pablo668]

Originally Posted by ralphee

Think logical for a minute, why reinvent the wheel with it.....sound fair?
Its using a tried and trusted layout, with possibly tweaked geometry.....if they were to go for anything too radical, we'd all be thumbing our noses at it and its possible complete failure at any form of comp level.....i say fair play to Tamiya.

lee

Yeah,
I agree with this, the B4 (and whatever else) layout and geometry is pretty well sorted and a good way to go.
I would just like the chassis to be a Carbon fibre affair rather that the standard plastic tub.
Whether it would make any difference or not......?

[DCM]

although the initial cost is more, the overall cost and speed of manufacture is far better with a plastic mould. It don't bother me, the material in which it is made, as long as it is stiff enough to handle and not to stiff to make the car twitchy......

[B44&501xRacerEX]

Twichy this, Twichy that, who afraid of Tamiya with a purty buggy that...
LOL

I cant wait for this car. I will be saving my pennies for it.

[B44&501xRacerEX]

Originally Posted by Pablo668

Yeah,
I agree with this, the B4 (and whatever else) layout and geometry is pretty well sorted and a good way to go.
I would just like the chassis to be a Carbon fibre affair rather that the standard plastic tub.
Whether it would make any difference or not......?

Well yeah the B4 has been winning for years since it came out in 2003.
So I suggest tamiya to copy some parts of the B4 and do it in thier
style of plastic. Not only will it be competitve, but plenty durable as well.
The Rb5 did in fact copy aspects of the same layout design.
People often classify the rb5 as a B4 knockoff. I dont but some do.

[B44&501xRacerEX]

Originally Posted by ralphee

Think logical for a minute, why reinvent the wheel with it.....sound fair?
Its using a tried and trusted layout, with possibly tweaked geometry.....if they were to go for anything too radical, we'd all be thumbing our noses at it and its possible complete failure at any form of comp level.....i say fair play to Tamiya.

lee

I agree but, I heard the dyna storm was a B2 with carbon fiber parts.
I admit the dyna storm looks like a sweet car to have. People still race 'em
too. But parts are pretty scarce if you break something.
I wonder why the DT-02 MS got discontinued. I was planning on getting
one but after people were breaking things on it tamiya discontinued it.
After all it was in fact just a dressed up desert gator. You could run one in stock buggy, just not modified.

I'm praying they get it right with this car.

[ApexSpeed]

Who cares if it copies a well-proven design if it works? Why do something different just for the sake of being different (cough, X-factory)?

[94eg!]

Originally Posted by B44&501xRacerEX

I agree but, I heard the dyna storm was a B2 with carbon fiber parts.
I admit the dyna storm looks like a sweet car to have. People still race 'em
too. But parts are pretty scarce if you break something.
I wonder why the DT-02 MS got discontinued. I was planning on getting
one but after people were breaking things on it tamiya discontinued it.
After all it was in fact just a dressed up desert gator. You could run one in stock buggy, just not modified.

I'm praying they get it right with this car.

Dyna Storm is a lovely car to own and drive, but racing one would be torture. Mine has the hardest time keeping the wheels pointed down at the local track. Of course I really need to loose the CPR unit (no it's not for sale)...

If the new buggy is anything like the B4, it will be a great buggy to race and bash (unlike the 501/511). Should be very popular like the DB01...

[B44&501xRacerEX]

Originally Posted by Fredrik Emilsson

I wonder if he could see any difference between B4 and RB5?

If your a tamiya factory driver, which I think you are,
maybe you can give us some insight on the upcoming trf 2wd buggy.

[AaronR]

I'm sure if Tamiya wanted detailed information or pictures leaked out, they would be out already. Patience, kids, patience.

I'll just say the car looks impressive on and off the track and I look forward to getting one when it is released. Lastly, NO, I did not get any photos of it.