A rant

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Northy

I am the meat.

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I'm sorry G, you are wholly incorrect.

I am the meat.

[ashleyb4]

I hope you aint trying to suggest me cus i do know alot and i dont say stuff i aint 100% sure on.

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[Northy]

Originally Posted by jimmy

Is it northy! no idea why that is, but a full size car is different - especially a road car I'd say. I don't think you'd see too many off road cars / buggies (full size) using upside down shocks (with the body on the wishbone)

I'd just like to point out to you Jimmy that I think you are wholly incorrect here, I have seen many of said vehicles with the shocks on "arse about tit"!

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[Mrs oOple]

Originally Posted by mattym0310

so what you're saying is.. people with no racing history have no knowledge?

I don't think Dan quite meant it like that? Some people could have 10 years of racing history and still not understand how their car works, especially if someone else sets it up for them all the time. I think Dan was referring more generally to some of the advice offered by people who maybe don't fully understand what they are talking about.
Perhaps a lot of the information presented on here is opinion based, everyone does things a little differently, that doesn't necesserily mean there is a right or wrong way of doing things.
I for example would say it's perfectly alright to charge my one pack of cells immediately after finishing my race, therefore I know it's ready for the next run, many racers would probably be shocked at this suggestion (for whatever reason).
Obviously if someone came and gave advice saying totally and utterly the wrong thing, something potentially dangerous or costly, then there are plenty of experienced and knowledgeable people on here who can set them right.
But indeed the best thing to do is to support and advise those people who don't quite fully understand what they are talking about (like me! I'm going to shut up now and stop pretending to know what I'm on about).

[Mrs oOple]

Originally Posted by ashleyb4

I hope you aint trying to suggest me cus i do know alot and i dont say stuff i aint 100% sure on.

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No need to be all defensive Ash :P No-one mentioned any names, there could be one person or 100 people on here that give incorrect advice, I don't think anyone is pointing the finger, merely trying to suggest a way of not advertising incorrect information.

[xx4-nutter]

Originally Posted by Mrs oOple

I don't think Dan quite meant it like that? Some people could have 10 years of racing history and still not understand how their car works, especially if someone else sets it up for them all the time. I think Dan was referring more generally to some of the advice offered by people who maybe don't fully understand what they are talking about.

Originally Posted by Mrs oOple

Perhaps a lot of the information presented on here is opinion based, everyone does things a little differently, that doesn't necesserily mean there is a right or wrong way of doing things.
I for example would say it's perfectly alright to charge my one pack of cells immediately after finishing my race, therefore I know it's ready for the next run, many racers would probably be shocked at this suggestion (for whatever reason).
Obviously if someone came and gave advice saying totally and utterly the wrong thing, something potentially dangerous or costly, then there are plenty of experienced and knowledgeable people on here who can set them right.
But indeed the best thing to do is to support and advise those people who don't quite fully understand what they are talking about (like me! I'm going to shut up now and stop pretending to know what I'm on about).

Mrs oOples like a mum who has come into a room to stop an argument and has hopfully solved it . Here! Here! for the lady

Garry D.

[ashleyb4]

Yea i find there are two people on this forum who will smooth stuff out really well. Vicky and Chris Long.

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[BenG]

Originally Posted by ashleyb4

Yea i find there are two people on this forum who will smooth stuff out really well. Vicky and Chris Long.

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Also Jimmy, seen as he can ban us all

[jimmy]

Originally Posted by Northy

I'd just like to point out to you Jimmy that I think you are wholly incorrect here, I have seen many of said vehicles with the shocks on "arse about tit"!

G

Stick em upside down on your pred then, clever boy!

[ashleyb4]

Banning people isnt always the best option when coming to troublesome people. I cant remember anyone being banned off oople except the russians. Jimmy and vicky well everyone talk to that person and they sort the problem out. Thats what Chris doughty did with me on doughtyuk.net.

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[Northy]

Originally Posted by jimmy

Stick em upside down on your pred then, clever boy!

I actually did on the P8 and it was better Seriously.

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[andy reeves]

Originally Posted by jimmy

Is it northy! no idea why that is, but a full size car is different - especially a road car I'd say. I don't think you'd see too many off road cars / buggies (full size) using upside down shocks (with the body on the wishbone)

i'm pritty sure that the sports 2000 race car that i work on has the shocks this way round. I will check the next time i am working on the car.

[super__dan]

Some good replies here, some of which have made me realise I didn't phrase my post so well and so fair do's on the replies. Of course the voice of reason has been a woman. Vicky, you seem to have got exactly what I meant.

If I try to explain, I did not mean people of varying age, history, experience etc are not entitled to an opinion. But often replies come across as factual answers rather than opinions and when I believe these are wrong I fear the person asking the question could have had a potentially expensive bum steer. Also with the amount of people reading this website, so many people can get the wrong impression.

E.G. The whole Aero thing, some of the posts to Lee have been way off in my opinion, I almost think he's having to defend his own reputation now which is totally unfair.

Lastly, I thought I was the meat???

[BenG]

Originally Posted by super__dan

E.G. I almost think he's having to defend his own reputation now which is totally unfair.

Lastly, I thought I was the meat???

I think lee is in an awkward posisiton, and it isnt his fault at all

I dont get the meat thing, you guys are toooooooooooo deep

[PaulRotheram]

Originally Posted by super__dan

Lastly, I thought I was the meat???

There are multiple meats, with varying characteristics.

mahahaha

[jimmy]

I will eat my own hat if someone can prove a performance reason that shocks would be 'upside down' , at least in off road.

The only reason I can read is one of shock absorber design which requires the shocks remain right way up / upside down, which ever way you want to look at it - but with the piston at the top.
Any time you read about upside down (same way we ALL use them) it is about performance, not restrictions.

Anyone got any salt then? my hat looks a bit flavourless!

[mattym0310]

im confused about all this meat and upside down forks. mind you i do get confused quite easily sometimes .
i just realised, if i know what your talking about, mountain bike forks are upside down compared to our buggy shocks.

so anyone want to explain the whole meat business?

[PaulRotheram]

the only reason you can read is because of upside down shocks?

oh my gawd.

[mattym0310]

gawd i really am confused

[ashleyb4]

The other thing i hate is when people like myself give people advice then they just ignore you then someone else (generally a more exsperianced racer) says the exsact same thing. I know people may want a second or third opinion but they never say thanks to the small fries.

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