A rant

[super__dan]

Something that's been bugging me a while and everyone I talked to on the weekend about this, Jimmy please don't take any offence to this!

There are some people on here who worry me and I worry about the advice they give. Essentially they come across like they are experts and know what they are talking about but in reality have little or no idea (I believe), no real racing experience, no results, they can however write a post that to a similair novice might think is really excellent advice. It dilutes what is a fantastic website for what we all love and one that has huge credability.

I've edited this rant down from it's full effect but really, if you don't actually know what your talking about please don't sound like you do. Every man and his dog seems to think they know about other drivers sponsorships, but proclaiming what it is or how that driver should behave is such crap.

I realise this has gone a bit random, I'll stop now!

[matdodd]

You Random mate never

I do agree with you on some of that though!

[David Church]

You tell em Dan!!!!

Alot of fun can be had reading what people think, they dont have to reply just to boost there post total.
Look at me, I dont give any advice??? Wonder why?? haha

[tc2k]

I dont give advice, if you see my drive, you know why. I am more interested in asking questions than answering but in some cases everyone can offer advice no matter how experienced they are.

[jimmy]

I agree dan, but also thats the price of this forum getting more popular and I can't really stop madness like that. What we can do is explain and educate (!) seriously, thats the only way - and if they don't listen, then beat them with sticks!

I have seen posts on other forums which were just plain stupid - like one on another popular UK forum (not a race specific one) talking about the benefits of upside down shocks. Utterly ignoring and common sense or laws of physics.

[Northy]

Guess your talking about me eh?

I am the meat.

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[Northy]

Originally Posted by jimmy

I have seen posts on other forums which were just plain stupid - like one on another popular UK forum (not a race specific one) talking about the benefits of upside down shocks. Utterly ignoring and common sense or laws of physics.

Like on the Pred Jimmy?

Actually we do run our shocks upside down, the real ones on my kit car are the other way up, thats how I was told to fit them.

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[xx4-nutter]

Originally Posted by tc2k

everyone can offer advice no matter how experienced they are.

i totally agree with you mate . me myslef aint the best at running the right sort of set-up if that counts towards my lack of "knowlage" ill run alsorts of random set ups. oddly enough somthings work for me..

it may also work for other people, but yet anouther thing some of the people who have been racing for years may think, WHAT THE HELL ? ..

also regarding "noobs to the sport" are we only the question askers ? not the answerers. im not having a dig at you dan i still think some people may sit and think right this and this will work thinking in a proper and well thought out way who are new to the sport.. ive been racing myself 3-4 years i think now and im only just starting to get into it properly regarding racing regionals and such and racing at a higher level. Durham outdoor regional just gone was my first out door regional. the first time i ever raced outdoor was at castle howard i dunno if you remeber dan ? i came and spoke to you.

again dan im not having a go dude

Garry D.

[PaulRotheram]

Agreed on what has been said.. new drivers need 100% reassurance on what the guidance they receive is true and solid. I'll admit, i don't know an awful lot compared to what some on here do know.. but anything i'm sure on i'll have a say about.

But as Jimmy said.. nothing can really be done, unless they can be educated to the correct way. No one on oople can really edit posts if they are wrong, its a persons opinion and they are obliged to it.. but if they can be taught, and corrected then this is the best way.. as more people can learn from the experience !

[mattym0310]

so what your saying is.. people with no racing history have no knowledge? well. think about it. some people yes do say stupid things and dont have a clue, but others dont necessarily have good racing history but could know their stuff. and maybe know the concept of it, just not the racing. for example, say an F1 drivers pit man/crew wotever is c**p at racing, it doesnt mean he doesnt know what hes talking about.

i do generally stick to asking rather than answering but if there is a question that i can answer i answer it. i dont see how, just cos you can drive a car well it means you can answer questions and others carnt? [apart from those idiots that have no clue wot so ever!]

[jimmy]

Originally Posted by Northy

Like on the Pred Jimmy?

Actually we do run our shocks upside down, the real ones on my kit car are the other way up, thats how I was told to fit them.

G

haha,
sorry I should have said - they justified their enthusiastic stupidness by saying that performance motorbikes use upside down shocks because they work better........ Utterly missing the fact that they are upside down from what they used to be, and are now the correct way up with the piston moving, not the body.
And preds are just like any other buggy, not upside down at all.

[xx4-nutter]

Originally Posted by mattym0310

for example, say an F1 drivers pit man/crew wotever is c**p at racing, it doesnt mean he doesnt know what hes talking about....]

i agree here im not having a go at Mike Riley i think the guy is spot on and really knows his stuff but not being harsh or anything i think he isnt the best of drivers under a saturn 20 turn, but hell he knows how to set a car up

Garry D.

[Northy]

Originally Posted by xx4-nutter

i agree here im not having a go at Mike Riley i think the guy is spot on and really knows his stuff but not being harsh or anything i think he isnt the best of drivers under a saturn 20 turn, but hell he knows how to set a car up

Garry D.

Now that is one of the funniest things I have read on here for a loooooonnngggg time!

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[Bathy]

I think if you're going to rant then name names, would make this thread a real proper-job rant!!!

oOple's kicking off at the mo, tis ace... almost as fun as racing 'big kid cars'.

[xx4-nutter]

Originally Posted by Northy

Now that is one of the funniest things I have read on here for a loooooonnngggg time!

Originally Posted by Northy

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mikes cool, he broke our pit table tightnin up a pred motor clamp, cells allen drivers handsets everywhere... and some slow mo catch of a Vantage type R ................. magic..

Garry D.

[Northy]

Originally Posted by jimmy

haha,
sorry I should have said - they justified their enthusiastic stupidness by saying that performance motorbikes use upside down shocks because they work better........ Utterly missing the fact that they are upside down from what they used to be, and are now the correct way up with the piston moving, not the body.
And preds are just like any other buggy, not upside down at all.

I don't understand Jimmy. On my kit car the body is conncted to the wishbone, and the piston shaft the chassis, so that would be upside down compared to our toys?

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[Northy]

Originally Posted by xx4-nutter

mikes cool, he broke our pit table tightnin up a pred motor clamp, cells allen drivers handsets everywhere... and some slow mo catch of a Vantage type R ................. magic..

Garry D.

Hey, I'm not saying Mike's not a nice guy, I would regard both him and Ben as friends, I even shared a house with Ben ffs, that was an experience!

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[xx4-nutter]

hehe i wernet saying you was dissing him, they are both sound lol...
you say you lived with ben, learn sumin new every day


back to dans point i think, its turning into a Riley thing lol.

Garry D.

[jimmy]

Originally Posted by Northy

I don't understand Jimmy. On my kit car the body is conncted to the wishbone, and the piston shaft the chassis, so that would be upside down compared to our toys?

G

Is it northy! no idea why that is, but a full size car is different - especially a road car I'd say. I don't think you'd see too many off road cars / buggies (full size) using upside down shocks (with the body on the wishbone)

[BenG]

I agree, no big heads and know it alls please, and if you were talking about me, sorry