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Old 15-05-2009
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TBH- The D4 is probably the most durable car I've ever run, and I'm not just saying that . So the Cyber has got good DNA in it's older brother and it seems to have been passed on and not skipped a generation!
That's good to hear, glad i decided on the Cyber 10B and not the other option i had in mind.

Just curious, will the Adjustable Slipper Clutch Set for the D4s fit the Cyber just fine?

Also, what are CVDs? Are they the Center Drive Shafts?

Sorry for the constant stream of silly questions
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Just curious, will the Adjustable Slipper Clutch Set for the D4s fit the Cyber just fine?
Yep, though you may want to put a spring inside the cup to stop the dogbones from rattling around.

CVD stands for Constant Velocity Drives. It's the type of universal joint found on the front axles.
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Yep, though you may want to put a spring inside the cup to stop the dogbones from rattling around.

CVD stands for Constant Velocity Drives. It's the type of universal joint found on the front axles.
Thanks scrawl, for the advice.

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... Eyeballing, everything looks like it will fit except for the center shaft CVDs. ...
Btw, did the center shaft CVDs from the D4 fit the Cyber 10B?
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Old 17-05-2009
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I used my remaining CVD rebuild kits on the rear drive shafts so couldn't install them.

I did go as far as removing the couplings from the gearbox and dropping the center shafts in place as a test. The rear shaft is a direct fit. The Cyber 10B's spur gear assembly is the same dimensions as the WCE slipper, so you need a WCE front central shaft. It's slightly shorter than then standard D4 front central shaft.

As well as the shafts, you also need the coupling drives for the gearboxes.

On a different note, I'd be curious to see how everyone is laying out their electronics in the chassis. If you could post a photo up, it'd be greatly appreciated.
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... If you could post a photo up, it'd be greatly appreciated.
Here's a pic of my electronics layout in the chassis. Hope it's clear enough
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Hi all. Does anyone know if the 10B uses the exact (same shape and material) wishbones and knuckles/uprights from the D4? Thanks.
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Yep. Identical part numbers.
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Yep. Identical part numbers.
Great. Is the material sorta like the 'carbon reinforced composite' that Tamiya uses for its higher end kits?
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That's right, I believe HPI/Hotbodies refer to it as 'carbon reinforced composite' too.

Here are some pictures of the car I've been building. Just finished installing the electronics. Nice to work on such a roomy chassis.
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That's right, I believe HPI/Hotbodies refer to it as 'carbon reinforced composite' too.

Here are some pictures of the car I've been building. Just finished installing the electronics. Nice to work on such a roomy chassis.
Cool. That got my hands itching quite a bit.

Was looking at the HB webbie and I noticed they offer the
Adjustable Slipper Clutch Kit #61587 and the
Front and rear shock kits #61585 and #61586

for the D4. Do you know if I might need to add any additional parts to make the slipper kit and the shock kits work?
Was thinking I might need new cups from the D4 for the aluminium shaft in the slipper kit to fit the Cyber 10B.
Shocks wise I suppose they will just snap on right? Are the Associated shocks cheaper or are the HB ones cheaper?
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I wonder when the kit will be released in Germany...
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Do you know if I might need to add any additional parts to make the slipper kit and the shock kits work?
Was thinking I might need new cups from the D4 for the aluminium shaft in the slipper kit to fit the Cyber 10B.
No additional parts required for either the slipper or shocks that I can see.

To install the aluminium shaft, you'll need a front gearbox CVD from the D4 and possibly a CVD rebuild kit.

The thickness of the aluminium shaft might pose a problem for the rear center shaft. My lipo (Intellect IP3800) barely clears the standard shaft - the extra thickness of the D4 one I believe will cause it to rub.

Just discovered the rear shaft coupling touches the battery. Had to push the lipo all the way forward and add extra foam to keep them apart.

I suspect the problem is the battery has some raised edges designed to mimic a NIMH pack. It increases the overall height of the lipo.
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... and dropping the center shafts in place as a test. The rear shaft is a direct fit. The Cyber 10B's spur gear assembly is the same dimensions as the WCE slipper, so you need a WCE front central shaft. It's slightly shorter than then standard D4 front central shaft. ...
The front central shaft you're referring to is the one with the item number HB-61578, right? Which center drive shaft does the Adjustable Slipper Clutch set (HB-61587) come with (back or front)?
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To install the aluminium shaft, you'll need a front gearbox CVD from the D4 and possibly a CVD rebuild kit. ...
Am confused as to this rebuild kit i read around the forum, what is it actually? Is there a model/item number to this front gearbox CVD that i can visually look at to aid my confusion?
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FYI, the manual is online:
http://www.hpieurope.com/manuals/pdf/100703.pdf
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Just curious... will the D4 body fit the Cyber 10B
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Dont think so. The Cyber chassis is wider at the rear to accommodate the cells across the chassis.
But the Cyber should fit the D4.

I think the Cyber is the better looking shell to be honest.
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I think the Cyber is the better looking shell to be honest.
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The front central shaft you're referring to is the one with the item number HB-61578, right? Which center drive shaft does the Adjustable Slipper Clutch set (HB-61587) come with (back or front)?
It doesnt say. but it seems to be the 61578. Here's a picture of the entire slipper kit.
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It doesnt say. but it seems to be the 61578. ...
Will try it tonight when i get home (postman finally visited) and post back with some pics
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