BRCA EB Battery Regs Announced

[Adam Skelding]

Originally Posted by Swiss

there was a post some where stating that the eb wanted to make sure things were equal and fair, that has failed, as anyone with a lipo saddle car that wants to run saddle , can not do so, unfair, and definatly not equal!!

How is it unfair... They can run cells, if they had a saddle configuration like anyone else.[/QUOTE]

Stick LiPo = 7.4v and about half the mass of a 7.2v NiMh pack.
Apples and Oranges
Having checked wheel rpm on my best 7.2v packs and a LiPo pack there is a significant rpm difference.
Add to this the mass advantage of using LiPo compared to NiMh in handling.

I think you'll see it can be shown to be quite an un-level playing field.

As someone said earlier if LiPo can't be used in all cars in a class, they why allow it at all?

[DaveG28]

Originally Posted by Swiss

I totally agree Chris, there are some advantages to the LiPo than the NiMh Cell... My thoughts was not based around that at all, just I don't understand how anyone can moan, if they purchased the LiPo saddle packs knowing they was not BRCA approved.
It's like secound guessing whitch tyres are going to be approved for the Euro's, buying the wrong ones, then complaining.

Yet again, it is not just that, it is that there are no saddles that are legal at all for Lipo.

[David Church]

Originally Posted by DaveG28

Yet again, it is not just that, it is that there are no saddles that are legal at all for Lipo.

YET!!!!!!!! ???????????

[Chrislong]

Originally Posted by Swiss

I totally agree Chris, there are some advantages to the LiPo than the NiMh Cell... My thoughts was not based around that at all, just I don't understand how anyone can moan, if they purchased the LiPo saddle packs knowing they was not BRCA approved.
It's like secound guessing whitch tyres are going to be approved for the Euro's, buying the wrong ones, then complaining.

I know DaveG has said this, thats what the issue is as the majority who bought cells ahead of the list expect to have to buy more (its still less expense than running Nimhs). Its not so much the people who have bought them now have cells for club racing only, but that they have no alternative legal saddle Lipo to buy and with running Lipo the thought of having no choice but going back to Nimhs is not attractive.... ... but who knows, something might be on the horizon. I hope so. Personally it doesn't effect me directly, as I run stick and expected to buy legal ones once known, I just feel sorry for any Saddle only car owners.

Perhaps in time 1 of 3 things could happen: we will either get saddles within the rules; rules changed at next AGM; or cars will be developed to not be saddle only configuration.

In the meantime..... dare I say it (yes)..... buy a Cat SX!

[Chrislong]

Originally Posted by David Church

YET!!!!!!!! ???????????

Youz knows somethings???

[DCM]

Originally Posted by Chrislong

In the meantime..... dare I say it (yes)..... buy a Cat SX!

Or a Tamiya DB-01!!!

[warped]

Originally Posted by Northy

What packs are those Warped?

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Yeah racing 20c 3200 sticks.

[Northy]

Got a link?

If it's these:

http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/rc-bat...l?cPath=52_973

Unless the wires are 0.4mm in diameter then they don't fit the size rules anyway.

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[sly]

Originally Posted by Northy

Got a link?

If it's these:

http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/rc-bat...l?cPath=52_973

Unless the wires are 0.4mm in diameter then they don't fit the size rules anyway.

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Which wire 0.4mm dia?


I have used them Yeah racing packs all 2008 and they have been great and i have zero problem with the £44 i spend on them being wasted to get a pack of lipos that are within rules. the £44 spend was far less then the £100ish on 3 packs of budget Nimh`s.

[Doomanic]

They are all over fleabay, I was hoping they'd get on the list as splashing out on top notch packs for Shorty would be overkill.

[warped]

yes they do fit the size rules. (at least as I read them)

The stipulation as to wires being included in the dimension is only if they exit at the side of the pack not the end.
(another odd reg if you ask me)

[Northy]

That's odd

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[David Church]

Originally Posted by Chrislong

Youz knows somethings???

No, not really....

But we did go through almost the same thing last year, no cells were legal, everyone panic'd, then all of a sudden loads were legal. It could possibly be the same for this year

[Chrislong]

Originally Posted by David Church

No, not really....

But we did go through almost the same thing last year, no cells were legal, everyone panic'd, then all of a sudden loads were legal. It could possibly be the same for this year

I agree that it could be, it'd be nice if that was so. Only time will tell.

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by Swiss

there was a post some where stating that the eb wanted to make sure things were equal and fair, that has failed, as anyone with a lipo saddle car that wants to run saddle , can not do so, unfair, and definatly not equal!!

How is it unfair... They can run cells, if they had a saddle configuration like anyone else.[/quote]
yes they can but those with stick pack cars have the option of nimh/lipo , saddle pack cars dont have that choice!

[David Church]

Originally Posted by Chrislong

I agree that it could be, it'd be nice if that was so. Only time will tell.

I bet there will be legal size lipo saddle packs for this year!!! How much you guys wana bet????? Lol..........

[SHY]

Spill the beans you Free Masons!!!

[SimonW]

Somebody MUST know who has submitted what up til' now

[PTRU]

Originally Posted by Northy

Again, if you run a BRCA sanctioned regional series you can not pick and choose what rules you use and what rules you don't. If it is not a sanctioned series results do not count towards driver formulas.




The difference was the rules for brushless motors (speedos don't matter) were written very early (sizes, connector type etc) so all were built to the rules and homologation was then pretty much a certainty.

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Please read your rule book regionals are not sanction events

[Northy]

Originally Posted by PTRU

Please read your rule book regionals are not sanction events

WRONG

I suggest you get your rule book out for a read, just to help you it's on page 32 of the 2008 book.

4. SANCTIONED EVENTS
4.1 Off-Road Sanctioned events include the
National Championship Series, Regional
Championship Series, Indoor Finals, Junior &
Veterans’ Championship, British Regional
Championship (BRC) and the Inter-Regional
F3/F4/F5 Championship. It is possible that further
specific events could be sanctioned by the
committee.

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