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Team drivers favour the use of one tam red o ring on the shock top side of cart and one mip blue on the bottom and use the shims in the upgrade rod guide set to adjust the friction created(i use 0.6mm) There is alot of differing views on bleed screws but our view point is avoid them. This shock is an emulsion shock ie it needs air and oil mix to work effectively, this was chosen over the oil/diaphragm shock as was found to be superior for off road usage( remember tamiya created this shock from scratch rather than usuing the df series of shocks which are offroad versions of the wonderful trf tc shock)
Using a bleed screw you will find it hard to create a pair of shocks with the same amount of oil to air ratio. bleeding the way jimmy describes earlier is far easier to maintain consistant shocks.
Even better is to measure the amount of oil needed to fill each shock to get the consistancy you want, then just put exactly the same in the opposite side. then you know each shock has the same amount of air and oil.

the last technique, i apprieciate, is a fiddly task but once you get the hang of it you will feel the difference on the track.

hope this info helps.
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Where are you guys still getting MIP blue seals? I can't find them anywhere here in the states.

It's interesting that you use a mix of metric and standard o-rings in your cartridge. I've taken to the Kyosho "x-rings" for metric applications. I still haven't had enough time with them to really tell the diff, esp between the clear and red versions.
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Old 23-12-2008
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IMO the Kyosho "X" rings (as found as options for the rb5, zx5 sp and fs) are teh best O-rings you can use for the Tamiya shocks. I am surprised the team guys use one MIP ring as that is an SAE size (1/16" I think) and possibly would be too loose or add too much stiction.

The x ring is teh same size--3mm x 6mm and seems to give less stiction to the shock action while at the same time sealing much better. The only issue is that here in teh states they are roughly $8 for a package of 8!!

I think the stock red Tamiya silicone o-rings are kind of hard--they are harder than the equivalent style Associated and Losi o-rings. I find they just dont seal very well at all. Maybe they are really old and the silicone has dried out?

I would be curious on trying the stock Yoke BX clear silicone o-rings as they are a metric size and would work. I already use the Yoke shafts (front BC and rear Bx) which are exactly the same lengths as teh WCE shafts but the ti-nitride coating lasts MUCH longer than the 2-3 race days of the original WCE shafts.

Does anyone know the diameter of the steel shims used in the WCE shock cartridges?
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Old 23-12-2008
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Can anyone help me with the 54028 dampers? I unfortunately cracked the bottom piece which screws onto the shock shaft and attatches to the suspension arms. Now i have one rear damper with the standard piece that comes with the damper kit and the other without. anu suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
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I think you want Tamiya part number 51282.
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Old 24-12-2008
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Thanks brother!
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