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[footey]

sign for ferrari tel

[telboy]

true, but I think he's already mentioned that he's going to spend his whole F1 career at Mclaren.

Bad mistake if you ask me. They're good when they're good, but when they're bad......well......

....all I'll say is, remember the time that Blundell and Brundle raced for them?

I think it would do him good to change teams at some point.

[terry.sc]

What a joke, what advantage did Hamilton have when he had let Raikonnen back past. Where's the stewards enquiry for all the very illegal weaving Kimi did to stop Lewis getting past, when Lewis supposedly had an advantage?
Most importantly why has the investigation come about when Charlie Whiting told Ron that Lewis letting Kimi past was okay, when the race director is supposed to be the one that passes any investigations to the stewards.

So we have a race which ends with proper racing and drivers battling for position, then the FIA decide they don't want any of that happening again.

Originally Posted by glypo

I'm just not going to watch F1 again.

I feel the same. I expect viewing figures for the Monza GP will be a lot smaller than for this race.

[nick oliver]

Well its a poor decison,

But i couldnt care i just won hell of alot of money with massa winning!

[bigoggy]

i dont know what the FIA have against hamilton but i dont think they will ever let him win the championship. i'm starting to think F1 is as fake as american wrestling

[RickRick]

why didn't kimi get a penalty when he ploughed into that car a monaco (force india??)

why didn't kimi get a penalty for hitting hamilton twice, once to push him wide, when lewis took the escape road, once running into the back of him at the next corner.

why wasn't kimi penalised for running off the track, staying outside the bounds of the track, and using that to gain a large speed advantage over lewis, who got back onto the track as soon as he could


Brcause it's a red car

[niggs98]

think i might paint my pred red .................... it is a joke. i stopped taking an active interest with all the crap last year and i have other friends who are both mclaren and ferrari fans alike and after the crap of this weekend will be turning their attention to moto gp instead. like said previously f1 has become as fake as the wwf. shame really as its ment to be the best race series in the world. think itv, bbc and sky should get together and not even bother bidding for the rights to show it next time the contract comes up for renewal, lets see what the fia think of that when there is noone to watch it and noone to sponser it. GP2 was much better as they all want to race and win and every corner is like its their last corner. perhaps itv can concentrate more on that as the racing looked much more fun to watch

[Garry Spice]

naths right...gp2 is a far better! least they try overtaking! at the rate f1 is going lewis should just walk away from it.now that would upset the applecart!

[Northy]

Why are they changing the rules for next year - to improve the show and get more overtaking.

What do they do when someone 'has a go' in tricky conditions remember - throw the rule book at him.

BULLSHIT - that's what I say

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[Garry Spice]

shouldnt we all be putting this on an f1 forum?

[dave g]

northy get your sig changed..

[Chris Doughty]

at least the time penalty was applied after the race and could *in theory* be overturned.

[Northy]

Originally Posted by dave g

northy get your sig changed..

Why?

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[Wraggy]

if i rememember right someone else did a similar move as hamilton about half way through the race as they also had no where to go ..
but nothing has been said about that one ...(cant remember who it was though)

[Nick Goodall]

Originally Posted by telboy

My sentiments exactly, They've penalised hamilton and given the win to someone that wasn't even involved in the incident.

Basically they're favouring ferrari once again.They broke the rules in valencia and the driver got a fine....big deal!

If you cause an 'unavoidable accident' (as koveleinen did) and you get penalised....you 'avoid' an accident, and you get penalised?! Whats that all about?

They can't say that Hamilton didn't give Kimi enough of an advantage, because as they entered the chicane, Hamilton was actually ahead until they got to the apex. So technically hamilton DID hinder himself to give the possision back.

Its ruined what was an awesome last 4 laps...once again!

It all stinks. Anything to stop Ferrari from whingeing.

What has our boy got to do to win this championship?!

I think Mclaren are right to appeal.

Absolutely spot b***ock on that man - couldn't agree more with anything you're saying Tel!

[Southwell]

I think a lot of it is aimed at Ron Dennis, he has a lot of enemies in the FIA i believe. Also the fact whenever things happen Ferrari don't like they threaten to leave, let them leave i say then maybe we can have fair racing instead of the shambles that happened yesterday.

[Southwell]

Where was he to go? If he breaked he would of probably lost his wing.

[AndyM]

Spot on Tel; couldn't agree more.

Also in the pics Southwell you can see that if he didn't cut the chicane he would of smashed into the side of Rhaikkonen and put them both out of the race.

Ridiculous in my opinion.

But it's done now...they're unlikely to overturn the penalty.

[Kopite]

He may not have got the penalty if he just followed Raikonnen through the next hairpin, then bizzed past him after. It was probably cos he was closer behind Raikonnen than he would've been normally, which gave a greater opportunity to outbrake Kimi into the hairpin. And who's to say that Kimi would've crashed out if that incident hadn't occured?

I'm not saying it's still right to dish out a penalty, and i'm sure you'll all start having a go at me for saying it, but they are valid points.

Either way, you're all right, the sport is corrupt

[telboy]

Niggs, thing is, if sky, itv and the beeb said they wouldn't bid for it next time, it would suit bernie down to the ground, cos he wants it all to go to asia anyway, so that he can get millions from tobacco advertising.

Wraggy, that may have been Klein, as he too got a penalty (I think). But even that stinks too, cos he had nowhere to go when Koveleinen hit webber...oh hang on he's in a mclaren and he got a penalty too...ok he did hit webber, but I said when he got his penalty that, in the Mansell/Senna era, thing like that happened every race, and they just carried on with the races!

I did think it was a bit strange when Ron said that he'd spoken to charlie and he'd said it was fine.
But then I didn't think it was too good a sign when Hamilton was getting booed on the podium. But Belgium has always been Ferrari biassed.

They'll leave the hearing 'til after the seasons ended, and if it gives Hamilton the championship to overturn it then things will stay as they are. But if Hamilton has no chance of getting the championship then they'll give him the win back.