NE Regionals splitting???

[bigred5765]

Originally Posted by chrispattinson

Hang on, is this BigRed trouble maker in the NW?????

No money to throw around here mate.

no matey just bouncing of your posts,i don't mind traveling up nne, and have done as i said for the past 5 years, racing first as always but the northwest region is suffering,and i know adding more clubs would help in this area,in the northeast there are 5 descent clubs 2-3 smaller ones that keep popping up then dying down/ northwest only has two, next year were moving to mid west possibly. but think more what you lot could do for the northwest, to help that region,batley and York are all with in reasonable traveling distance for the usually regional guys,dont be selfish share and share a like lol

[chrispattinson]

Good debate, yes, it's almost like a chat room at the moment.

Ive just learned that BigRed doesnt even race!!! Does that mean I can get my dad, mam and wife voting on the issue aswell?

Ok, lets make this positive. NE region seems to be one of the best regions to compete in?? Is this correct, I dont know for sure as I have never raced NW or any other?

So if it's one of the best, I dont see the point in changing it, though maybe we should encourage car sharing, through a car sharing thread for regionals?

[chrispattinson]

Ok, so how is this going to help the NW, sorry for being short sighted, but I dont see how the NW would benefit?

[Lee]

Personally i see no benefit for the region if it gets split. It takes away the feel of a "bigger" meeting by having it on your doorstep, people wont stay over so it will lose the social side of things. The competitiveness will be split and therefore making both sectors weaker.

the only positive is the saving on fuel, but honestly is this really a big cost, i dont think so in the grand scheme of things

[bigred5765]

Originally Posted by chrispattinson

Good debate, yes, it's almost like a chat room at the moment.

Ive just learned that BigRed doesn't even race!!! Does that mean I can get my dad, mam and wife voting on the issue aswell?

OK, lets make this positive. NE region seems to be one of the best regions to compete in?? Is this correct, I don't know for sure as I have never raced NW or any other?

So if it's one of the best, I don't see the point in changing it, though maybe we should encourage car sharing, through a car sharing thread for regionals?

Bigred doesn't race but his boy does and is UK under 16's 2wd Junior champ, and national under 16's 2wd and 4wd champ, so there na na i still have to drive him there and mechanic for him, so I'm there just as much as you or anyone else, next

[Lee]

Originally Posted by bigred5765

UK under 16's 2wd champ, and national under 16's 2wd and 4wd champ,

Sorry, slightly off topic but whats the difference?

[bigred5765]

Originally Posted by chrispattinson

Ok, so how is this going to help the NW, sorry for being short sighted, but I dont see how the NW would benefit?

it doesnt even need to split, last year bury ran in both north east and northwest,more clubs more competition, more track time, different sirfaces for the locals to practise on. the list goes on. i do think your being very narrow minded, this thread is a we are going to thread what do you think its more a what if calm down chris be constructive not disruptive

[bigred5765]

Originally Posted by Lee

Sorry, slightly off topic but whats the difference?

juniors is won at the juniours, national under 16's is run at the nationals
easy lee.
but thats another thread and topic

[notlawnomis]

Originally Posted by jimarea51

This is not a battle between north and very north....

More the N/E and N/W

[chrispattinson]

Originally Posted by bigred5765

it doesnt even need to split, last year bury ran in both north east and northwest,more clubs more competition, more track time, different sirfaces for the locals to practise on. the list goes on. i do think your being very narrow minded, this thread is a we are going to thread what do you think its more a what if calm down chris be constructive not disruptive

The regional calendar this year was very tight, it actually prevented Jarrow from hosting a 2WD round, and I would imagine Batley a 4WD round - though Im not sure regarding Batley.

I honestly can't see the benefit from having an extra track (Bury) in the NE region, apart from when we were short of tracks, and Bury kindly allowed us to have a regional there.

Going back to what Jim initially said, I understand it was due to cost of fuel in general. From experience, we try to go 3 to a car for long distance regionals, maybe this should be encouraged?

[bigred5765]

now no need for that, lol,OK let see if we can change this topic slightly then and get it going again, what can you lot from the very northeast do to help the northwest lot,what are your proposals

Originally Posted by chrispattinson

The regional calendar this year was very tight, it actually prevented Jarrow from hosting a 2WD round, and I would imagine Batley a 4WD round - though I'm not sure regarding Batley.

I honestly can't see the benefit from having an extra track (Bury) in the NE region, apart from when we were short of tracks, and Bury kindly allowed us to have a regional there.

Going back to what Jim initially said, I understand it was due to cost of fuel in general. From experience, we try to go 3 to a car for long distance regionals, maybe this should be encouraged?

if the north east really has such a busy year then surely back to Jim's original point a 3 buy 3 split would let all clubs run both 2wd and 4wd events then, and if you wish run in both sides of the NE split and nominate one for your points,

[notlawnomis]

I propose you start another thread to discuss it!!

[Lee]

Carl we cant really do anything, as you cannot compete in 2 regions and score points, i come to southport to give the car a blast as there is a national there next month. If bury had a nat im sure more people would come over but i also doubt it would benefit the region it just means that the guest class is getting even quicker

[bigred5765]

i think all valid points, from every one but im sure it could be done without hurting any clubs or racers

[chrispattinson]

Originally Posted by bigred5765

now no need for that, lol,OK let see if we can change this topic slightly then and get it going again, what can you lot from the very northeast do to help the northwest lot,what are your proposals,

Not sure we can do anything, its a difficult one. They need to focus on club racing, and get new blood coming through from grass roots, are the clubs well attended? - New thread!

Originally Posted by bigred5765

if the north east really has such a busy year then surely back to Jim's original point a 3 buy 3 split would let all clubs run both 2wd and 4wd events then, and if you wish run in both sides of the NE split and nominate one for your points,

- See previous pages for reasons given.

[nobby]

Originally Posted by bigred5765

now no need for that, lol,OK let see if we can change this topic slightly then and get it going again, what can you lot from the very northeast do to help the northwest lot,what are your proposals
nothing apart from coming over to the odd race. you have to sort it out your self like we did.


if the north east really has such a busy year then surely back to Jim's original point a 3 buy 3 split would let all clubs run both 2wd and 4wd events then, and if you wish run in both sides of the NE split and nominate one for your points,

i think most people have said they don't want it to happen.

[chrispattinson]

For NW - you'd be suprised how helpful councils, newspapers etc can be to help the sport.

[bigred5765]

Originally Posted by chrispattinson

Not sure we can do anything, its a difficult one. They need to focus on club racing, and get new blood coming through from grass roots, are the clubs well attended? - New thread!





- See previous pages for reasons given.

na null and void,

saying clubs will close because if this happens isnt even valid imho
its like im taking my ball back

i think it could be done quiet easly,3 north north east 3 north east 3 north west, god even over lap 2-3 clubs as bury did last year, and chose which you want to score ponits in, all this might even be a waste of time, i guess the best person to ask or get involved would be a brca person.thats knows if we can splitt a region .all bollocks isnt it if they say no, or yes

[Lee]

i cant see it happening to be honest, it will not benefit any club and afterall the brca will have the clubs interest as a priority.

[super__dan]

Originally Posted by Lee

Personally i see no benefit for the region if it gets split. It takes away the feel of a "bigger" meeting by having it on your doorstep, people wont stay over so it will lose the social side of things. The competitiveness will be split and therefore making both sectors weaker.

the only positive is the saving on fuel, but honestly is this really a big cost, i dont think so in the grand scheme of things

I agree with all of Lee's points and as such I don't think/want it to split, leave as is. I like the idea of a big region with lots of people there and whilst a decent time away at the end of the day is preferred I do like a full day of racing with enough people there to have enough time between runs to maintain car/talk rubish/play 'Who is it?' (cheaper version of Guess who?).

Personally I liked going to Bury last year as the track is ACE and is a good crack for the weekend I', not much bothered about the politics over which region it should be in. It's all about the racing