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Old 22-07-2013
Allan1875 Allan1875 is offline
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Default B44.2 handling nightmare, looking for suggestions

Hi guys, i currently race DEX410v3 but my Dad decided to take up buggies and got himself a B44.2 as he likes Associated stuff.

He set it up as kit, except i swapped the rear oil to 27.5wt AE.

Before i go any further this is all racing on grass, schumy yellow, 1 outside row and 1 inside row of spikes off the front tyres.

The car had too much front grip, really bitey on the front end made the car roll a lot but drivable.

We were back for another regional a fortnight later at the same track so i made some further changes changing the rear springs from white to black, and the front springs from blue to orange to try and increase rear traction, while limiting front but to be honest, this really didn't help at all, infact if anything the car was worse, although the grass had grown thick in places which made have increased the front traction a fair bit.

I change numerous things throughout the day trying to compensate by lengthening camber links, moving shock angles to try stiffen it up but we kept coming back with pretty much the same end result. The only progress we did make was we managed to decrease the front end grip, however the rear end was quite snakey, which was a surprise to me as we were on the softest springs and a fairly soft oil.

I had a look at Gareth Hill's setups on petit rc and the car was setup very similar to this at the beginning of the meeting with absolutely no joy. I only had a quick couple of shots of the car but it did not feel good at all.

I found it extremely frustrating as my Durango was absolutely dialled. The only thing my Dads car done better was jump, man did that AE jump and land well!

Basically looking for some AE tips here, below is some of the setup off the top off my head.

Shocks:
rear - black, 27.5wt, 2x1.7 - Mounted middle on tower, inside on WB.
front - orange, 35wt, 2x1.7 (changed to 2x1.6 later on). Mounted Middle on tower, outside on WB.

Camber:
-1 rear, -1 front (tried increasing this to -1.5, helped a bit)

Diffs:
Both were fairly tight, perhaps loosening the rear may have helped calm it down?

Anti roll bars:
None connected.

Camber links:

Rear was in the middle on car, 2nd hole on hub (kit)
front was on outside on car, and outside on hub.

Tried lengthening both these as i believe it calms and stabilizes a car but had no joy at all.

Any help would be very much appreciated as my Dad's new to buggies and is finding the jumps etc hard enough without having a difficult handling car to contend with. If you need any other info on the setup, just ask.
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