B44 & B44.1 Hobbywing Settings

[DragonRider]

Hi

My son and myself are about to start off road with 4WD.

My son is running a Hobbywing Extreme Stock with a Hobbywing 10.5 in a B44

I am running a Hobbywing 1s 120a esc with a Hobbywing 8.5 in a B44.1

Both motors have no timing adjustment, so all settings by the esc.

Can anyone give me a starting point with the esc settings for both setups.

Looking for settings for medium/high grip indoors on carpet and possible outdoor on Astro.

Any help very much appreciated.

Cheers

Mark