Newbie needs help and advice :)

[Diwrnach]

Hi there, returning to RC cars after an extremely long break, last car I had was a Tamiya super sabre, and before that a Tamiya Super champ, just to give you some idea of how behind in the times I am

My daughter is now coming up to 4 years old, and is showing alot of interest in building things, messing with eletrics/electronics etc, and also in rc cars, so figured why not buy her a car kit for christmas we can build together! perfect, as I love building things as well.

We watched a few videos on youtube and straight away she was "and we can race together like that" so, car for me as well I guess.

Now I live just outside Stratford upon Avon, and apparantly there is a fairly new track open at Longmarston airfield, its an offroad coarse, and from what I can gather runs at least 2wd and 4wd off-road stuff (though I do need to get down there when theyre racing and find out for sure).

So for my daughter I figured a Mad Bull would suit her about perfect, strong and fun.

But for me, I would like something I can also mess about with her with, but also have a go at racing.

Here is where it gets difficult, definately want a kit, not a rtr car (though the rtr seem ALOT cheaper for some reason?) and I am slowly going loopy trying to decide what to get.

I'm on a limeted budget, so to be honest would like to go the cheapest route possible, not to concerned with being winner every race, but also dont want to stand no chance at all.

So I have kind of whittled it down a bit, thinking maybe a DF-03 Dark Impact, or at a push the DB-01 Durga, but thats really pushing my budget as I would need ESC as well.

Then there is the 2wd Tamiyas, DT-02 Desert Gator, and the Schumaker Cougar SVm but again thats pushing maybe a touch high on budget as it needs lipo batterys, and wanted to share charger with daughters car instead of having seperate ones, plus the ESC and motor.

Also the Associated B4, this model really confuses me, as the rtr ones, the 4.1 is it? is quite a good deal, with everything included, but I REALLY want to build it myself, and the kit is a lesser model, and will work out about the same price?

OK thats a very long post, sorry about that, but my head is really hurting after 4 days of internet research, and really need some advice from people who know what they are on about.

Many thanks in advance for any help, much appreciated.