Ansmann Brushed Motors - any good?

[bertberr]

Hi, still considering a Mad Rat for a bit of bashing, notice that some places advertise it including a 23T motor and others say no motor included. As far as brushed motors go, what are the Ansmann branded cans like? I see you can get an 18T from Modelsport for £5.99. Pretty cheap, but cheerful too, or a pile of cr*p???

Looking to get it on the road for the minimal cost, so also looking at a Modelsport (Mtroniks) Viper RV-12 ESC at £21, again are these OK for the money, or is better to pay a bit more to get something much better???

Cheers