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Old 29-04-2009
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Default kyosho lazer zx5 RTR durable?

im new in the 4wd buggy class.so was considering the zx5 RTR as first buggy.i'll be using it mostly for bashing on road cuz my neighbourhood lack offroad terrains.but the tamiya durga seem like a tough one too.cant decide. explanation on their maintanence and wear and tear also durability wold be helpfull.i dun wanna break stuff on my first run.expect me to do sillymistakes like bumping on to curbs and parking lot poles.hehe.me quite noob.
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Old 30-04-2009
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I run a zx5 SP and if you're bashing, I'd get a durga
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Old 30-04-2009
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oohh.does kyosho zx5 hav any street tires tat can fit well in their stock wheels? sometin like proline road hawgs
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Wheel rim sizes are all much the same, so hawgs will fit if they fit 10th cars, the centre hex and the offset of the hex(or whatever) changes on wheels, so you will need wheels that fit (they may not need to be kyosho on the kyosho).

another vote for the durga
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Durga is as tough as old boots.

The ZX5-RTR is a great club car but I'm not sure it'll like being bashed too much. Although that said a few simple and cheap upgrades like ali hinge pin holders will make it as tough as you like too.
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I went for the ZX5 RTR as i was going to use it at the local club. Before i started i did a bit of "practice bashing" and it was quite easy to break in places.

I would say zx5 better for using at a club, but if it is for bashing only, you just got vote number 3 for the Durga!
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Old 30-04-2009
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Durga is as tough as old boots.

The ZX5-RTR is a great club car but I'm not sure it'll like being bashed too much. Although that said a few simple and cheap upgrades like ali hinge pin holders will make it as tough as you like too.

ok the durability part is cleared.durga hands down.but which buggy will hav easier maintanence on their transmission if i were to use a 12 turn motor?thinking of brushless in near future.wen pocket allows.

u said kyosho zx5 will be tough wit cheap upgrade, if then how cheap?? plus zx5 givs evryting(RTR).

ur opinoin wil be vry helpful.still cant decide though.
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Old 30-04-2009
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I went for the ZX5 RTR as i was going to use it at the local club. Before i started i did a bit of "practice bashing" and it was quite easy to break in places.

I would say zx5 better for using at a club, but if it is for bashing only, you just got vote number 3 for the Durga!
is the zx5 really tat weak?wow, 3 for durga.but stil not convinced.ill wait till 5 votes.fair i guess.haha.
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ZX5 is a pretty tough car. The improved moldings on the shock tower mounting are now really strong... to the point it is now the tower that breaks.

The weak spot is the plastic front hinge pin brace, replacing with the genuine kyosho alu part is about £15, but there will be cheaper alternatives about.

The advantage of the ZX5 is that it comes in an RTR pack, i think they now do an RTR version that is equiped with Orion Brushless.

Durga is a great car too though.
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Old 30-04-2009
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does kyosho tranny giv problems when lower turn motors are used? how does the durga fair ??
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Default zx5 vs durga

i run a zx5 5.5t brushless lipo my mate has durga same spec the last couple of meetings the durga breaks nearly every heat. the top of the shocks are plastic and seem to snap off while my zx5 breaks the odd hub and wishbone. the zx5 is more presice but alot harder to drive there are plenty of ally hop ups for zx that make it pretty unbreakable.the durga chews belts with alot of power where as the zx is shaft. i would not buy a rtr though self tappers and plastic outdrive cups mean you will have to upgrade to put power through it. by a good second hand one off the for sale forum.
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Old 01-05-2009
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after the hop up,wil it be as bashable as the durgga?

also do they hav street tires for the zx5?(PLUS INSERTS)
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Default wouldnt be given durga

durga drives well but keeps dying .get some anaconda tyres 2.2" they fit all 1/10 microtecracing website will sort you. regards budfish
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Old 01-05-2009
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Default conclusion

DURGA
-better basher
-drives well but keep dying
-more maintanence
-losi hex style
-not quite capable of handling brushless power.
-comes as a kit
-rear diff problem?

KYOSHO ZX5
-btter racer
-durable wit cheap upgrades
-no compatible street tires
-can handle brushless setup
-shaft transmission
-less maintanence
-RTR


did i get tat right guys based on ur opinions?
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Old 01-05-2009
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not exactly;

Durga (or Baldre) is available as a brushless version.
http://www.wonderlandmodels.com/prod...-10t-brushless

both should be compatible with most tyres 1/10 off road 4x4 (2.2) tyres.

both require basic amounts of maintenance and will both have pro's and cons in this respect, once correctly setup i would expect the DB01 to be less maintenance because of the sealed drivetrain.
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i would say the burga is a meatier car
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both require basic amounts of maintenance and will both have pro's and cons in this respect, once correctly setup i would expect the DB01 to be less maintenance because of the sealed drivetrain.
As the ZX-5 is shaft-driven, would it not be the more maintenance-free drivetrain?
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Old 01-05-2009
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Default Durga vs ZX-5

I am the mate of Budfish - i run a Durga.

He is right had lots of issues breaking parts - particulary shock caps and towers - however i glued some off-cuts of dense foam on - problem solved.

Durga is easier to drive (well at least mine is as i have it set up properly)

To be totally honest its just down to personnel preference really..

If your going for brushless in the future then durga will need some mods to the rear diff - done it to mine - lazer can prob take it straight off.

For me its the durga - but thats cause i have one - if i had a lazer id ber saying choose that !!

All the mainstream cars are much of a much - they will all need maintennace and work doing on them - just the way it is.

Now if you looking for very low maintennace i would reccommend

traxxas slash - had a couple and they are tough as foo**K jumped mine over skateboard half pipes - and i mean right over the top railing and all - no damge at all

traxxas bandit - got one of theese too that i just bought off a pal with a lazer - again very strong hardly ever breaks, parts are much cheaper than tamiya or kyosho plus you have the added bonus of being able to put an 11.volt lipo straight in (as long as you get VXL version) and that means up to 70mph ! which is ff**N fast as...

For bashing i would go traxxas definatley - strong and very cheap on parts...
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Old 01-05-2009
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lhs in mlaysia dun support traxxas parts.oni hpi,tamiya,kyosho and team ae.i noe vry tough and fast out of box.so sad in mlysia.well i hav decided on durga then.if i use zx5,i maybe willbreak things a lot faster and i want for road surfaces ,sadly kyosho zx5 has no street tires tat fit(RTR doesnt even hav inserts).and high maintanence coz tranny is exposed to dirt.also too fragile.
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