Need more power on steering for rear motor TLR 22

[uijui]

So with kit setup, slippy polished tile surface. With minipin rear, cut stagger front, tried shorty lipo in all positions, but there's not enough steering, when power is applied! What to try? Ball diff, slipper loose. Should I try gear diff??? Help

[Frecklychimp]

have you got reasonable rear grip or is it very easy to spin out when putting power on?

in all conditions i found 25deg kickup shim (included in kit) and 5 deg castor blocks an improvement on mid car.

i assume you mean straight out of the box with camber link positions, shock oil/springs? which piston size did you fit?

is it mid or rear motored too?

need to know as much as possible to consider any advice matey

[uijui]

Sorry, forgot some details, so Rear motor. Setup like this http://www.tlracing.com/ProdInfo/Fil...t-Standard.pdf

Only mod inline axles. Shorty lipo 200grams.

And yes so slippy that front tires won't take grip when power is applied, and it's still slippy at rear on some points. With very low speed 180deg turns car turns too much when the front's take grip.

And thanks for info in any case !

[Frecklychimp]

TBH i don't think i can help you that much with this one...

I have a rear motor car for running outdoors when it is proper wet, when first testing it on dry and wet astro and grass i transferred the complete geometry and shock set up as my mid car to it, but with a milder 9.5T motor (6.5T for mid car)

It was spot on or me, only played with ride heights and tyres, drives fine!

problem i have is with advice is that on wet Astro and grass, i can overcome the slippy side of it with some spiked tyres and loosening the slipper as required... the set up works fine (apart rom having to remember to take jumps differently!)

I run no weight in the rear mounted car at all and run a full size LRP 5900 stick pack (they are quite bulky compared to other packs)... always run 80g's under LiPos with mid car and an extra 50g at least TLR rear weight as soon as its damp/wet or very bumpy.

i have not raced on a full polished floor for many many years and only with 4WD's... been on many tracks that have slippy sections but as with most drivers its a case of taking care with throttle on those bits and making up for it on the grippy bits!

Are you using a control tyre with the minipins? Is it worth trying something like full spikes or pink Ballistics all round to allow tyres to generate more grip?

yellow minipins are probably a bit hard carcass wise for using on polished surface

Have you tried minipins on front?

Have you tried slim staggers on the front?

what are other drivers running tyre wise?

200g is a fair amount of weight to be adding, where is it placed?

[jcb]

As Frecklychimp has said if you are not running a control tire I would try a tire a longer spike as had already been mentioned. I'd be tempted t try a schumacher silver mini spikes all round.

As for setup changes, when I ran mine rear motor I felt the 25 degree kickup and 10 degree hubs gave nice progressive steering and helped with on power steering. You could also try lengthening the front link to hole 1.

Otherwise it might be a case of playing about with where your weight is located.

[uijui]

Thanks for answers. Yes controlled tyre on rear - yellow minipin.... I just have to try. But I allready tried shortys in all positions. And different anti-squat + different diff tensity (ball). I will now try gear diff and minipins at front. Original stagger rib didn't turn at all on that surface.