Setup Help

[Shimmy]

Hey fellas,

Running my X6 Sq on a really rutty/bumpy/breaking hard clay track which is a little abrasive.

Currently running Panther Bobcats up front and Goosebumps on the back (although I am still in search of better tyres).

While overall it's not too bad but its not not 'good', I dont think anyway.

I attached my current setup.

I am finding that it has a reasonably good straight line stability and usually has enough steering through the turns but does not inspire confidence and unless I am being very careful about it, it can be quite unpredictable/tail happy going into/coming out of corners, mid corner is usually great.
It usually isnt gentle about it either, it just flicks around.

This, at the moment is my main problem, I have tried a few different things with setup and Calibers and V1 Barcodes and still find the same problem.

Sometimes I also find when really getting on the power on the straights at first it just wants to dance all over but once it gets going it feels really locked in, also did this with the 4° toe block, not a big issue, I can put up with it/minimize it by being a bit more gentle on the throttle but would be nice to be able to hammer in this section as I tend to loose a bit of ground here.

I'm unsure if its a weight transfer issue or something else.

I have the weight up front to help give a little more steering, before it would always push heaps on power (mid corner or abouts), it improved a bit after putting the weight in.

I would appreciate any help.
Cheers,
Brendan.

EDIT:
What is the part number for the little white adjustable shim set for squat, hub, arm, etc spacing, I seem to have a knack for loosing these.
Also, where can I get ball studs that have a hex in the end so I can easily move them?

[The_doctor]

this is a set up i still run to this day....our tracks over here are the same as you run on dusty and grippy....

run x 2000s version 2 red great rear tyre .............. also try losi BK bars or the new AKA rebars they are very good!!!!!!!

calibers are the worst tyre ive ever used!!!!!!!!!!!

going by your ratio u run no boost...... so try running 69/ 37 for 17.5 if the temp of the motor comes of under 70 after 6 mins keep running it!!!

we run no timing/boost over here i run 67/37 on a team powers motor and it fly s

you can find picks of my cars on the rctech x factory thread just go back a couple of pages and you can see my last big win!!!...

[Shimmy]

Ta mate, I'll give that a go, I'll just slowly make each difference one at a time as I do it.

I think one of the other blokes had the X2000's and said they were decent but lacked a little sidebite, could be a setup issue aswell as he has only ran the buggy a couple of times.

I had the calibers running really sweet while practicing once, aslong as I stayed on the clean line but I went back for more practice about 2 days later and were just horrible, thats been my general experience with them too, one moment they are great then the next your worst nightmare.
I think the blocks/pins are too close to each other aswell.

I'm keen to give the Losi tyres a go and the Rebars.
The Goosebumps might have been a little better if I could find something that is NOT the green compound.

These pics give a decent idea as to what the track is like.
At the moment we have just one jump but have a couple of others ready to put on (not permanent at the moment).








You are correct that I am running no boost but I am running 32° timing, with no timing the motor felt dead, no speed at all and any more timing doesnt seem to make much difference, it does run pretty cool though, about 55° after the 10 min final.
I am going to get a couple of bigger pinions in my next order.
I may eventually get the Duo3 17.5.

Just about to take a gander on Rctech.

[GML]

If you want more confort, you can put forward rear hubs and arms ; and wing to full rear.
I never run the rear ride height upper than the front.

What is your weight distribution ? Loosen slipper ? Don't you have too much rebound on shocks ?

[Shimmy]

That was one of the last things I changed (to get my current setup).

I found that handling overall was a tad nicer with the hubs and arms forward but it didnt like going over the jumps, it would just bounce over and the front end would lift up more often.

I'm not sure on weight distribution, I only have 1 scale.
I have loosened the slipper, coming out of corners was slightly better but not still not that great.
Rebound as in too big a piston, oil too thin?

I am running the shocks pretty soft at the moment, I have tried a combo of harder setups with harder springs, smaller pistons and different oils but I found the softer setup to be the nicest, more contact with the ground, less bouncing, more predictable (aside from the current problem, which was there before aswell).

I'll play around with droop soon, I do have a fair bit.

[GML]

This surface seems very hard to control...
To get a little less steering in exit, I try the Losi front tires 7204 which are more agressive in enter and less in exit (compared to 7202 and Proline)

I can't see on your pics but if the track is very dusty, I would try the Stud red on the back