B44 Polished Wood Setup

[westie]

Alright guys, anyone got a decent setup for polished wood?
Car seems to have no traction at all compared to the rango's and cats,car has understeer them mental oversteer. tried full spikes, mini pins.
Current set up is as follows
1Deg camber all round
Long wheelbase
30 wt oil silver spring front, out on bottom, in on top
25 wt oil green spring, in on bottom and top.
Silver rollbar on front

[gazhillAE]

Originally Posted by westie

Alright guys, anyone got a decent setup for polished wood?
Car seems to have no traction at all compared to the rango's and cats,car has understeer them mental oversteer. tried full spikes, mini pins.
Current set up is as follows
1Deg camber all round
Long wheelbase
30 wt oil silver spring front, out on bottom, in on top
25 wt oil green spring, in on bottom and top.
Silver rollbar on front

Your way off a decent setup here mate!

The undeersteer won't be helped by the front roll bar remove it!
Medium or short wheelbase not long
Front oil 40w ae and rear 30w ae same springs
Weight in rear end centre weight if it's a b44.1
Loosen slipper ever so slightly to get power down better or go up a couple of pinions
Black roll bar or possible silver on rear
6.5-7.5t motor
Mini pin yellows all round maybe with a couple of Rows cut off the inner and outer not to many though!
Then there's the diffs make sure there tight enough
This should help you

[discostu]

Originally Posted by gazhillAE

Your way off a decent setup here mate!

The undeersteer won't be helped by the front roll bar remove it!
Medium or short wheelbase not long
Front oil 40w ae and rear 30w ae same springs
Weight in rear end centre weight if it's a b44.1
Loosen slipper ever so slightly to get power down better or go up a couple of pinions
Black roll bar or possible silver on rear
6.5-7.5t motor
Mini pin yellows all round maybe with a couple of Rows cut off the inner and outer not to many though!
Then there's the diffs make sure there tight enough
This should help you

why!

[westie]

Hi mate, cheers for the reply will give it ago!

[wezzer]

go up on the oils first luke , try 5 wt all round higher !
gonna try more limiters in the front shocks to !
ran the final without roll bars at all and it was the best its been all night but still wasnt great
kit set up with 25 rear and 30 front was dialed last year , shame its not working this year

[westie]

Kool, will try it next time with harder oil

[afun1979]

I'd be running Yellow mini spikes not pins as mentioned - and i personally would never cut any spikes off unless you're running on multi surface, but that's just me.
Try using soft inserts as they seem to help me.

[kayce]

Originally Posted by gazhillAE

Your way off a decent setup here mate!

The undeersteer won't be helped by the front roll bar remove it!

To cure chronic understeer, always start by removing/lessening the front bar and adding/stiffening a rear bar instead
(front bar = rear traction, rear bar = steering)

[Miggers]

When I raced an Optima Mid 20+years ago,one venue had a carpet-
polished wood mixed surface(it was a works club IIRC).

No roll bars,softer springs and oil all round.
Tyres were the stock Bridgestones(only time I used 'em,otherwise it was CAT pins).
Motor was a 21t running a 20t pinion

The trick I used when coming off the carpet onto the polished wood(it was a long left sweeping curve)was to brake on the carpet,go onto the wood into
a "Finnish Flick" and nail the throttle to hold a long 4 wheel drift through the
curve.
It would just set you up right to go back onto the carpet in a staright line
with full power on.

Mark

[wezzer]

i think this is the issue we are trying to cure
car has understeer then mental oversteer !!
its not progressive , it will push then mid corner oversteer

[westie]

Shocks rebuilt with thicker oil & bigG's sorting some minispikes out for me to try hopefully it will be better next time out

[Steven Forster]

Originally Posted by wezzer

i think this is the issue we are trying to cure
car has understeer then mental oversteer !!
its not progressive , it will push then mid corner oversteer

Also had the same problem on sunday with yellow mini pins...........I started of running yellow full spikes which were awesome in qualifying but changed for the final as everyboby else said that mini pins were the best to run with.

I was all over the place, understeer on initial turn in then oversteer from mid corner

this is the setup im using......

http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associa...219/index.html

[kayce]

Originally Posted by wezzer

i think this is the issue we are trying to cure
car has understeer then mental oversteer !!
its not progressive , it will push then mid corner oversteer

That's what happens when you have a case of excessive understeer, the car will push really bad and when it finally stops plowing it then has snap-oversteer. You have to cure the understeer.

[gav4wd]

Ive been running a B44.1 for a few weeks on polished floor and found the car suffers understeer, all things ive tried to make it more postive on the front just make it unstable think it may just be that type of chassis.
If you want a steery animal maybe the b44 is not the beast to have but i think it could be a great safe chassis outside.

[wezzer]

Originally Posted by gav4wd

Ive been running a B44.1 for a few weeks on polished floor and found the car suffers understeer, all things ive tried to make it more postive on the front just make it unstable think it may just be that type of chassis.
If you want a steery animal maybe the b44 is not the beast to have but i think it could be a great safe chassis outside.

ive been running mine on polished since it was released and have never and do not suffer from understeer, probably the opposite, its just lacking in over all grip is all,