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[jimmy]

England is crap..
no, not the football team, I mean the country!
What the chuff.. so, vickys car is broken into by potential twoc'ers this morning, who kindly bend the door and smash the window.

tonight I heard a lil "pop" and there are 3 holes in 2 different windows on our house, air rifle style.



Its like a warzone round here.

Mrs.oOple, please can we move to ausanada yet ?? (australia or canada)

[Mrs oOple]

Tomorrow, yeah?
I'll go pack me bags.

[Chrislong]

Aye, England sucks. You do know if you caught the little fuckers and tw@'d them it'd be you getting arrested.. and to be honest, id give a tw@ ting worth being arrested for too.

Why have things gone so crazy? Probably cos the way benefits are handed out, it encourages under-acheivers to become young single mothers, and then there children get no love, have no values or respect. Then the children from good homes are lead astray by the wrong kids.

Sorry to hear about Vicky's car and the window.

[jimmy]

Still police up the road- lights off waiting to stop and search anyone they see.. but still, not enough is it when I jump at every lil sound, ready to run out like a mad man brandishing the worlds biggest camera all primed to beat them senseless with it..

Really not happy round here, its rubbish. :| *sob*

[Northy]

It's nice where we live Jimmy, come and live here!

G

[bigred5765]

sorry to here about your probs hope all turns out ok
i would say move up here
or go to b&q get some cheap security camas, £89 for two cams and the controler stopped the d heads around here

[DCM]

As much as I would like to agree Chris, but I think that is just a pawn in the social disaster that is Great (laughable) Britain. Probably being older than most of you on here, I remember growing up as a kid in the 70's and early 80's and things chenged dramitacaly through them years.

It isn't the bennefit system that cuases these issues but it is more to do with the fact that we went to being a country run by Goody Goody type people. When I started comprehensive, the teachers were allowed to pull you out of your chair by the hair on the back of your neck, smack you cross the hand with a ruler and dish out corporal punishment. Now, I will admit this is something that should not be used lightly but should be there as a deterrent. We all mostly behaved in school, and our parents were allowed to smack us and we respected the authority.

Today, I see parents without the backup and belief in them that they know when a smack is a smack and not a darn flipping beatin. As far as the Police have been told, if it leaves a mark, it is abuse. So, you got a boy/girl who is misbehaving and you try other things to no avail, so you go to smack the bugger for being misbehaved, what goes through your head.... best not, and the child, who is in the know turns to you and says, 'you hit me and I will phone Social Services'. The same thing happens in school.

Parents and Teachers have lost the right to 'control' a child.

But it isn't all the SS and governments fault.

How many kids do you see having tantrums cause they want something?? I see loads, mine don't do it, I got 5, they can try, but as soon as they use Tantrums or anything like that, they get fook all, but others get embarassed and give in, thats called 'behavioural conditioning' so the child learns REAL QUICK on that one.

Jim, one little peice of advice, if you ever EVER catch someone in your house and you decide to give him a dam good beating, make sure it is at the bottom of the stairs or on the stairs. The law is pretty adamant, if the 'visitor' is found downstairs, then no intent ot harm the occupants were there, if the intruder goes up to the sleeping area (upstairs) then you are allowed to use 'reasonable force' to protect you and your family. Just make sure he 'falls down the stairs' in the struggle.

Jim, good luck mate, sounds like you got a group of 'ellusives' that the Police know who they are but have to wait to catch them 'in the act'

[losidan]

I feel sorry for the schools. When I was at school as DCM says it was the norm for teachers to discipline pupils as they saw fit. I dont say that in itself is enough but underlying this is the lack of power the teachers have. Talking to a teacher recently about discipline (cos I have been contemplating taking the PGCE) the teacher simpy sends the pupil to an officer with a note who deals with it. If they suspend or expel they are forced to just take them back by the governors or someone else anyway so the pupil learns nothing. I have heard loads of parents threatning to go and attack teachers for action taken against there child. What does any of this achieve?

When i was a whipper snapper if I did wrong at school I got what was coming and then looked forward to some more fun and games when I got home.

Peoples professional opinion is worthless these days. If you dont like what someone says anymore, simple just go see your lawyer and get them to get whoever you need to say what you want.....

No wonder this place is going to the dogs...