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Yesterday we had something of a dilema with the number of young children at the track. Bury is a family club, and as such we would never ask that people don't bring their kids with them, but they do present a major health and safety issue.
Ideally we need to keep them off the track whilst racing is going on, especially around the tabletop area where they stand a dangerously high chance of getting hit. The dilema part is that they would clearly like to get involved, and want to help out, and of course we wish to encourage that.

My wife of all people put forward a clever suggestion. Why don't we set up a kiddies track and get a few Micro T's to run on it? It wouldn't take up any space at all (the equivalent of a single parking space) and they can race, marshal and play to their hearts content.
The track could be a piece of carpet marked out with garden hose, maybe some tiny jumps - just like our track, but in mini form. I'd suggest a simple layout (oval even) as they are learning.

Whatever happens, we cannot have the same situation as yesterday. Sooner or later one of them is going to get hurt and we can't have that. I'd rather not say no kids full stop, as thats going to keep people away (I'm likely to have to bring Ben at some point myself) and it doesn't encourage them to join in. However, Goshen park has little for them to do other than marshal, so i get why they do it.
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To be fair i picked up on this, also.

I was really backing off up and over the table top (near right from the rostrum) as i didn't want to hit any of the youngsters.

If you say no kids the club will slowly fall apart. The kids are the next generation of racers.

i think a smaller track would work well! It would be good.
but you need to keep the kids involved with the proper racing. Or they will never really learn.

I would suggest "Child Friendly" marshal points. Or that the should be accompanied by an adult. I think a few small HI VIS vest wouldent go a miss either.
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BRCA rallyx rules state no one under the age of 12 should be marshalling, dont know how it is in tenth. We just make their old man marshall if theyre too young.

Guys if you do want to build a micro track for the kids Ill donate a roll of astro for ya! Would cover a 5m x 4m area if you cut it in half and laid them side by side
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We've still got some astro left from the old track, but we'd need council permission for anything not temporary, which is why I suggested a carpet track we can quickly pack away.

I'm not sure what the minimum age is, but in truth those rules only apply to racers anyway. The children involved were not entered into the meeting, simply accompanying people who were. The rule book suggests anyone (regardless of age) not racing should be on the other side of the fence, but they kept finding their way on to the track.

They are keen to help, and learning good skills, so thats all fine - but need to be kept well away from the more dangerous points of the track. However, thats where all the fun is (and where the marshals have to work hardest) so that is where they go.

If parents that are marshalling themselves want their kids at their points and helping thats cool, but presently unaccompanied kids should not be on the track.
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I can see your point on this as there where alot of kids running round on the track yesterday. But them problem is the youngsters that are racing the likes of jack ,josh , vaughn etc all race week in week out they know exactly how to marshall and sometimes do it safer and better than the adults so where do you draw the line on it. you could have child friendly marshall points but when you only have small turn out it would difficult
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I've had a few PM's from other clubs about this, and the basic answer there Martin is that racers marshal, non-racers are outside the fence. However clearly nobody wants to smash a speeding B44 into Vaughn's face, so we still need to consider his safety first and foremost.

It makes sense therefore to as much as possible keep our very youngest drivers away from the more dangerous marshalling points - specifically I'm thinking the table top and anything that involves crossing the straight, plus the wooden jump if used. Obviously in a heat full of juniors we can't avoid every dodgy marshal point, but we could assign them to the oldest/most experienced.

In no way should this be considered a criticism of the kids that were helping yesterday - they are really fast getting to cars, much faster than the adults! The issue is they are a little slower righting them (which leaves them in the danger zone longer), less visible and more fragile!
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Yesterday we had something of a dilema with the number of young children at the track. Bury is a family club, and as such we would never ask that people don't bring their kids with them, but they do present a major health and safety issue.
Ideally we need to keep them off the track whilst racing is going on, especially around the tabletop area where they stand a dangerously high chance of getting hit. The dilema part is that they would clearly like to get involved, and want to help out, and of course we wish to encourage that.

My wife of all people put forward a clever suggestion. Why don't we set up a kiddies track and get a few Micro T's to run on it? It wouldn't take up any space at all (the equivalent of a single parking space) and they can race, marshal and play to their hearts content.
The track could be a piece of carpet marked out with garden hose, maybe some tiny jumps - just like our track, but in mini form. I'd suggest a simple layout (oval even) as they are learning.

Whatever happens, we cannot have the same situation as yesterday. Sooner or later one of them is going to get hurt and we can't have that. I'd rather not say no kids full stop, as thats going to keep people away (I'm likely to have to bring Ben at some point myself) and it doesn't encourage them to join in. However, Goshen park has little for them to do other than marshal, so i get why they do it.
Any other ideas welcome.
I think the micro t idea is a great one there cheap to maintain and lots of fun and you xan get some amazing speed out of them
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