B4.1 or Cougar SV PLEASE HELP!

[wurzelyzf]

Ok guys,i'm returning to RC after 20 yrs and looking to go club racing (going to my first meeting tomorrow as a spectator) and I honestly can't decide between the B4.1 and the Cougar.
Atmittedly in my heart i am pulled toward the b4 but my mind tells me it's been around for a long time and will therefore will probably outdated and outclassed sooner rather than later.

what are the pro's and cons of each model?
Also,if I went for the B4 should I take the plunge and go for the team kit or is the rtr really worth considering?
How much to convert it to a team afterwards?

Haven't got a huge budget so probably won't be racing for a month or so until I can buy everything but would like to get it right first time around.
Any help or words of wisdom at all would be very much apreciated.

[markwilliamson2001]

I would consider the b4.1 rtr brushless version: http://www.m-k-racing.com/product_in...oducts_id=7576

You will need a battery pack (go for a lipo, possibly saddles if you want to ever upgrade to a 4wd buggy later on, then you wont need to buy new saddles again), but make sure you get a lipo compatible fast charger (cccv method).

It will be more than quick enough for indoor and club racing, plus you can always upgrade the electronics later on should you wish, for not much (2nd hand racers gear is good, see the for sale section on here).
Apart from the shocks, and some small details (like some ball bearings, and turnbuckles) this is a great buggy, and not far off the factory spec car!

It also includes everything you need to 'race' on a budget bar the battery.

Note that it does use imperial screws, so getting a set of some decent hex drivers, and nut drivers is worth it if you want to keep the screws in good nick.
The car will come with some allen keys and plastic tools, but its worth buying some decent allen drivers to replace the cheap allen keys.

Check out the brca website for clubs in your area...if you want to race, I would also invest in a lipo charging sack, as this will probably be mandatory at a club you would want to race at.

Hope this helps
M.

[markwilliamson2001]

Please note that there is nothing wrong with the b4.1 rtr shocks, they are just not the v2 versions on the ft. If you are unsure, then get someone to help you build one.

Depending on where you race, some UK tyres might be worth getting like schumacher yellow minispikes or minipins for indoors.
Some stiffer springs as well for the front might be worth an investment (assoc. Silvers).

M.

[markwilliamson2001]

Alternatively, you could buy leeboys cougar here:
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74969

You would need a handset to go with it go 2.4 ghz if poss.
I can vouch for leeboy as a genuine seller, he is sound.

Cheers.
M.

[wurzelyzf]

I've been talking to him about that one today and it's a very real option,for some reason though something keeps pulling toward a B4. Maybe it's the reliability and race proven nature of it, i don't know.
Definately the rtr would mean i'd be up and running much quicker although I would also like to build it from scratch so I know exactly where everything is and what it does.
Is the gear diff ok in the rtr? i'm sure i read somewhere on here it might be a bit problematic?

[wurzelyzf]

Just to throw a cat amongst the pigeons, what are X6 squared's like? I know for one thats all but have no knowledge of them at all. Can you run lipo & brushless with them etc?

[wurzelyzf]

I wanted the opinions of people who know this car the best,those that drive them.
They know the limitations,weekpoints and strengths so I can then decide what I want to do.
I asked a very similar question in the Schumacher forum too but not one person replied

[Rebelrc]

Cause they are all busy fixing their cars lol Joke!

[Adam F]

Having had both, I think you have made the right choice.

On their day both cars are great, but if you are just starting off again, the B4.1 is bulletproof and more simple to set up than the Cougar...

Just ignore the kit set up/tyres and get one of the more UK specific ones. (Blue/silver springs etc)