Preds & jumps?

[showtime]

well i seem to keep hearing the Preds can't jump and was wondering a couple of things

can they actually jump & more importantly land OK?

and what do you need to do to the car to help you in this situation?

i recently got an X10 as i fancied something different & was captured by the awesome looks etc but am planning on running it at Newbury over their winter series! plus as many meetings at Pidges as the calendar allows!
the latest jump section @ Newbury that worked rerally well was also a bit unforgiving if you came up short & claimed a fair few victims!

am i mad even attempting to run a Pred here & should get something else? or should i just stock up on parts & expect to do some major repairs?
people keep telling me its a weak car but i wont kow about that til i run it

what do i need to do to my shocks/setup to help me?

[RogerM]

When I last ran my P8 (I ran preds from the XT to the P8) it didn't seem to have any more problems jumping or landing than anything else at that time.

Some of the preds before that did suffer a little as the nose cone would hit the ramp first and kick the chassis rather than the car driving up the ramp. The P8 (and thus assuming the X10 / X11) had a shorter steeper nose cone to avoid this problem.

There was a weak point on the rear of the chassis. On the older cars if you'd come up short on the landing ramp of something like the cross-over there was a very real chance that the chassis would snap in two (taking the prop and gears with it) at the front edge of the rear wishbones.
Whether that is the case or not with the current cars I am not sure.

As for helping it on the jumps it was always a matter of looking at the front rather than the rear ..... running the single hole piston and thinner oil than the usual 2 hole 40wt standard set-up helped by giving the front more pack which would work well at somewhere like Newbury, not so good on rutty tracks with jumps.

The Pred was always a slightly more difficult car to jump than anything else but it was worth it as it was so much faster than anything else around the rest of the track you could afford to loose a 1/10th on the big jump ...... as back then most tracks didn't really have much in the way of big jumps, even less with landing ramps etc.

That was my experience of the car but it's not exactly up to date.

If I'd seen better support for the car when I returned to 1/10th off-road I'd have probably gone that way and in fact I have nearly bought 4 X10s since I've been back but each time I've convinced myself I have to run something else and keep the Pred as a fall back position.

[super__dan]

The problem as I see it is the fact that you almost 'have' to use the chassis bottoming out as part of the way you get the car to land at all. You'll never hear chassis slap as much as on a pred.

[Southwell]

Nothing wrong with preds on jumps and bumps, mine was always really good at flying, but as Dan said the chassis, especially the front take a beating. I ran one for 2 years and broke one chassis, but that was landing from 6 feet up onto concrete slabs for most of those two years lol. Indoors though im not so sure, i wouldn't run one indoors personally.

[MattW]

The rear does seem "slap" as little as the others have said. I'm sure you can stop it, but i think it would compromise it around the rest of the track.

It certainly isn't a week car. I ran my x10 in 06, and my xx4 in 07, and i can assure you that i used far less spares in 06 than i did in 07!!!

[Richard Lowe]

IMO looking at the roll centre's ect you have to run a pred really soft to generate any kind of grip, which gives the lovely Pred landing bellyflop

If the car had lower RC's they would be able to run the shocks properly...