22 kicking out under acceleration

[DCM]

Running mine in rear config, locations as in the 22 thread and as you come out of the corner, the rear wants to kick out so you have to stroke the throttle, another running in mid congif was also doing the same.

I was thinking that it may need more rear toe, would I be right, and what difference would the HRC block make over the LRC in the kit?

[Gnarly Old Dog]

Ref HRC vs LRC blocks, I find that the HRC block feels more consistent through the entire turn. The LRC feels as if it grips harder to begin with but it will let go more violently.
The HRC block feels a little looser to begin with but after a few laps, the increased consistency tends to mean that the overall lap times are lower.

I watched one of our team drivers make the change from LRC to HRC yesterday on dry astro. The first few laps were a little loose but within 1 battery pack, his lap times had come down by over 1s average.

It's been debated a lot and I can't comment on the theory but in terms of feel, the HRC block is nicer and more consistent.

Rear toe would help lock it in under accel but the compromise is often in the longer turns where less toe will allow more corner speed.

I'm assuming that you're hitting the throttle when you say that it kicks out? Possibly move the rear hub link in to the B position to generate more camber gain and ensure that you're running the taper wedge under the front and the front link is long.

I'll be honest that I always tend to stroke the throttle and allow the speed to build rather than trying to fight wheelspin but then again, I have been told that I drive like Miss Daisy

[DCM]

yes, got the wedge in on the front. It is kicking out under acceleration, even dropping down from a 7.5 to a 10.5 it was still there.

But do I go up 0.5deg and HRC or just go to the HRC 4.0?

[Nick]

Originally Posted by DCM

yes, got the wedge in on the front. It is kicking out under acceleration, even dropping down from a 7.5 to a 10.5 it was still there.

But do I go up 0.5deg and HRC or just go to the HRC 4.0?

I would say go to 4.0 min maybe even 4.5 as the car has loads of steering! I ran mine on a 4.0 HRC today and thought it was planted! It has to be the best 2wd I have driven ever ! Still needs a tweak here and there but found the car so easy to drive!

[spud31]

at moto arena, us minions lol ( not mr bloomfield) found moving the rear hubs forward let the gas be used earlier out of a corner and i ran 4 HRC with 3deg anti squat.
in the end i ran staggers on the front as did darren an the car still has awersome steering.
Only thing i have noticed is on high grip low speed turns the car seems to lift the inside rear wheel a bit ala mk2 golf. i extended my rear shock length to 31mm length body to shock end an it seemed better.

[DCM]

Seems HRC is that way to go then, with the HRC shim kit to.