Sweden bans latest batch of IB4200

[magnus]

Sweden has now banned the latest batch of IB cells due to exploding cells. The batch has the marking AZCWT. At the same time EP4200, EP4600 and the new orion cells are now allowed for racing in sweden.

[stefke]

so does Belgium.

[sosidge]

Well, if the argument has moved on from...

"Exploding NIMH are going to kill us all"

...to...

"Specific batches of IB4200 are unsafe, everything else is approved for use"

...then this can only be a GOOD THING.

[kyosho-viking]

The batteries that blew up in Norway, are not from this batch, so I don't see the point.
Norwegian federation are having a meeting this weekend, with drivers and persons from the clubs, more info regarding this should be out Monday.

[CAi]

Well.... this means that we dont have to participate to Eskilstuna race...shame!

[bbq]

Originally Posted by CAi

Well.... this means that we dont have to participate to Eskilstuna race...shame!

why not?
they only banned the latest batch off cells you can stil use the
old IB 4200

[b4rs]

they should stop letting retarded chinese gyspsies making them in there smoggy factories, i saw in a documentary that 1 in 5 things from china dont work properly, coz some lazy guy in china cba doing this correct (probably coz of his salary) so i wouldnt be surprised, im more worried about the chinese made li-po's. they dont call em chinese specials for nothing!!

[RogerM]

Originally Posted by b4rs

they should stop letting retarded chinese gyspsies making them in there smoggy factories

Immediately followed by £100 per pack if not more

[DanW]

Originally Posted by b4rs

they should stop letting retarded chinese gyspsies making them in there smoggy factories, i saw in a docmentary that 1 in 5 things from china dont work properly, coz some lazy idiot in china cba doing this correct (probably coz of his salary) so i wouldnt be surprised, im more worried about the chinese made li-po's. they dont call em chinese specials for nothing!!

I think you will find chinese workers are very hard working despite their poor salary and often poor work condions.

The reason the market is flooded lower quality products from China is because of the low prices that "We" (the western consumer) demand.

GP cells pushed Sanyo out of the market because of price/performance, now IB have pushed GP out. But to get the price down and the cell capacity up corners will be cut and quality issues ignored.

RC is the same as all markets; clothes, electrical goods, etc... We demand lower and lower prices on the high street so companies make cheap rubbish in China to satisfy our wallets. Then we complain when they pollute the world with smoggy factorys. Very little of what the chinese make is for the domestic market, mostly for export to Europe and US. So all the smog, pollution, junk and other problems the chinese make our essentally the fault of the western consumer.

We should remember how relatively cheap these products are.... I believe you can get matched EP's for £35 a pack... 15 years ago £35 would only get you sport packs, anything matched would be £45+ or so.

[SlowOne]

Originally Posted by b4rs

they should stop letting retarded chinese gyspsies making them in there smoggy factories, i saw in a docmentary that 1 in 5 things from china dont work properly, coz some lazy idiot in china cba doing this correct (probably coz of his salary) so i wouldnt be surprised, im more worried about the chinese made li-po's. they dont call em chinese specials for nothing!!

If that's a flame post, OK, but if it's what you think...

Like Dan says, if we didn't buy cheap Chinese products, then they wouldn't have a market to sell into. Similarly, those 1 in 5 (if that's true) poor products are made for Western companies who specify what they want, and then fail to check the quality of what is delivered.

That is no different to the West - the British car, motorcycle, HiFi, and camera industries went bust because they made poor products. It isn't something exclusive to the Chinese.

There is no evidence that this is solely manufacturing fault. There is a lot of evidence that the industry (from matchers through to users) does things to these cells that are not what the manufacturer recommends, and/or may contribute to the problem. Problem is, we don't know what!

I'd like to know what it was that leads the Swedish Association to ban just this batch...

[chrispattinson]

I'm sorry B4RS, but thats verging on racism.

[Southwell]

Originally Posted by b4rs

they should stop letting retarded chinese gyspsies making them in there smoggy factories, i saw in a docmentary that 1 in 5 things from china dont work properly, coz some lazy idiot in china cba doing this correct (probably coz of his salary) so i wouldnt be surprised, im more worried about the chinese made li-po's. they dont call em chinese specials for nothing!!

I would seriously step back and think before you post. If you can't do that, don't post!

[JCJC]

Originally Posted by b4rs

they should stop letting retarded chinese gyspsies making them in there smoggy factories, i saw in a docmentary that 1 in 5 things from china dont work properly, coz some lazy idiot in china cba doing this correct (probably coz of his salary) so i wouldnt be surprised, im more worried about the chinese made li-po's. they dont call em chinese specials for nothing!!

No problem with the Chinese or Chinese made goods, Jordan races and is 14 years old, all of this toys and most of his clothing in this time have been made in China, and well made in China is what I always thought. Most of the goods have an "american" quality about them.

My feeling is that the Chinese work hard, are inteligent and are as honest as the next business man. Some of the factories have working conditions that may have existed over here 100 years ago, but these are improving, our batteries cannot stay as cheap if conditions change, and change they must. But expect more and more goods to come from this country.

rant over...........

[bondy]

Originally Posted by JCJC

No problem with the Chinese or Chinese made goods, Jordan races and is 14 years old, all of this toys and most of his clothing in this time have been made in China, and well made in China is what I always thought. Most of the goods have an "american" quality about them.

My feeling is that the Chinese work hard, are inteligent and are as honest as the next business man. Some of the factories have working conditions that may have existed over here 100 years ago, but these are improving, our batteries cannot stay as cheap if conditions change, and change they must. But expect more and more goods to come from this country.

rant over...........

More than likely in the next ten years you will be working for a company in GB thats owned by a chinese company ! China has the fortune of having its economic boom start in a modern era when they can easily plan its infrastucture using modern technology etc etc !
Remember our economic boom in a world prespective happened in the 1800 's when we had Mills in Hudderfield worked in by numpties ! using canals and waterways etc etc etc.
China has airports ! Power stations brand new motorways and willing workforces to resource on.
Japans rise is an example. Perhaps if we had not reduced all there cites to rubble it might had been a different story. But in the last 50 years they have had time to rebuild ! Do things right ! proper infrastructer etc etc. Were here in England ?? Well most cities are old streets and highways and roads cannot cope ! We are slowly choking. UK,USA,France etc are all worried about China's growth "Enviromental reasons!!"" I think they can see the future and China's is looking like it might be better than ours !!!

Just one of my thoughts !!

[burgie]

Originally Posted by b4rs

they should stop letting retarded chinese gyspsies making them in there smoggy factories, i saw in a docmentary that 1 in 5 things from china dont work properly, coz some lazy idiot in china cba doing this correct (probably coz of his salary) so i wouldnt be surprised, im more worried about the chinese made li-po's. they dont call em chinese specials for nothing!!

nothing but the ill-informed, adolescent racist mind would type something like that. If that really is your opinion, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Take the criticism of your post on this forum for what it is:- constructive. Learn from your mistakes, learn about and understand the modern world and learn how to spell. Then come back and participate in this discussion with posts that are based on fact and not racism.

[mark christopher]

come on lets get back on topic, this may be out of turn, but the pc we have to put up with now is getting out of hand, we are alll entitled to opinions and we all have the freedom of speach, he has said what he felt, some may agree, some may not but lets just move on and not make a mountain of it.

[b4rs]

lol northy funny as!

joking aside, im sorry but i dint intend it to come across as racist.

i just ment that the working conditions they are in arent good enough and i wouldnt be suprised if they didnt bother making cells properly coz i wouldnt either.

Once again im sorry

p.s burgi, keep your comments to your self, theres no need in you to start avin a go aswell i realise i was in the wrong when i posted and my comment was sort of taken the wrong way but can fully understand how. i can spell but have u eva heard of TXT speach??? and i type pretty fast so sometimes i miss characters, which many people do.... im expected an A in english language so i doubt i cant spell tbh.

Anyway, sounds like a pretty bad thing if batteries are going to explode and u guys in sweden and belgium cant use em'

[AndyM]

Originally Posted by burgie

nothing but the ill-informed, adolescent racist mind

you know mate, prejudice is just as bad as racism.

I think what b4rs said was a very harsh thing to write, but
Im 15, so im 'adolescent', and would never, EVER! be racist. to be honest, what you said actually offends me.

so dude, you shud 'practise what you preach' as they say. In other words, don't be so hipocritical.

rant over....