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Found in another forum seems like a good idea
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See what you think of this idea and pass it on if you agree with it. We are hitting 99p a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced with paying over £1 a ltr.

How's this for a good idea: This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain day campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work. Please read it and join in! Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market place not sellers.

With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea: For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!! I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on. By the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.(and not buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! Acting together we can make a difference If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE RANGE It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your petrol at Shell, Asda, Tesco, Salisbury's, Morrison's Jet etc. i.e. boycott BP and Esso

copy and paste this to as many people/ forums as you can guys and lets screw em over instead of the other way round!!
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The supermarkets buy their petrol from the likes of Esso, BP and Shell anyway....
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The supermarkets buy their petrol from the likes of Esso, BP and Shell anyway....
They May do, but i dont think so. If you have a derv, try sainsburys derv then shell, back to back tank. I would never fill up with sainsburys even it were 10p per ltr cheaper.
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is a really good idea and i would be up for it but i run a company van and my company only give me a card for bp

but hope everyone else will do
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can't say there's an esso or BP garage too local to me anyway, besides, I only tend to put Shell V-Power in mine...
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fuels already over £1 a litre some places here!
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The supermarkets DO buy the fuel from shell etc.

You never see an asda refinery do you
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think they do, filled up at tesco's tuesday night and had to weight a few minutes till the BP tanker moved!!
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Surely the vast majority of the cost of fuel is tax? So it's not the oil companies you need to target if you want the overall price bringing down.
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i'd be more than happy for it to be £2 per litre, just think how many clubcard points i could get with my company fuel card doing 30k a year
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Isn't petrol a bi-product of something to?

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No, as petrol is the intended product, a byproduct is something that is usually not used, hence cheaper LPG
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No, as petrol is the intended product, a byproduct is something that is usually not used, hence cheaper LPG
Are you sure? I remember an old guy telling me that they used to dump petrol in the sea because they had too much of it (as it was a by-product).

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I would not think that any petrol distillation is wasted these days. LPG is a slightly refined product of what is normaly burnt off the top of the vent stack at a pertoleum plant though. my father remembers, during the war, when the millitary tool their big cut of fuel, cars were converted to run on LPG and had inflatable tanks on roof racks... scary as hell that.
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Isn't petrol a bi-product of something to?

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it is actually (smarty arse) lol. heres a diagram, i learnt this in science.




there all bi-products of crude oil.

science lesson over for today
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But Petrol is the intended product, they dont buy the oil and then go, come on then, what should we do with all this leftover petrol
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This is old hat, turned up in 2000 when the first action against fuel prices started. It's also rubbish! By the last count, there were only 60m of us in this country, so how would an e-mail sent to 300m people be any good?!! Oh, and only 30m cars!

From 10 Jan this year, fuel duty is 50.35p per litre. The rate for biodiesel and bioethanol is 30.35p/litre. Roughly speaking, the refinery gets about 30p, the retailer about 5p, and all that has VAT added. So, 85p (ish) plus 17.5% VAT gives us the magic £1 per litre.

HMG gets about 65p per litre tax (so, 65% duty, not 97% as mentioned earlier!) by adding a tax to a tax, and the smallest slice goes to the guy who swipes your card - except that the guy swiping the card is also the guy doing the refining, in a lot of cases!

In the USA, there is no fuel tax, so the doubling of crude oil prices has gone straight through to the pump price - $1 a gallon when all this started (2000), almost $3 a gallon now. In the same time, our pump prices have gone from 87p a litre to £1. Whinge all you like, I know which system I prefer!

Fuel tax raises about £23bn a year, out of a total Government budget of about £427bn per year, out of a GDP of about £1 trillion. I know it feels like a rip-off, but it is a flea-bite compared to income tax (30%) NI (20%) VAT (17%) and Corporation tax (8%).

If you want to get really cross about something, get cross about the fact that people who weren't born here, but live here, can claim non-domiciled status for tax purposes. This means they pay virtually no tax on their incomes (because they declare it as overseas income) - Abramovich included. The 'non-doms', as they are called, are worth about £100bn, on which they pay £14m in tax; about 1.4%. And in this last Statement, the Government said they would tax them - at £35,000 a year!

Oh, and in case you are wondering, there is no fuel tax on the aviation fuel for their private jets...
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