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Old 30-09-2010
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Default Why no off road Tarmac tracks?

With the whole Moto-Arena thing up for debate, i just wondered why nobody has ever built a Tarmac off road track??

I'm not talking about a T/C track with some jumps, but a track that's smooth flowing, with banked corners, tabletops, whoop sections etc...

If you think about it, you could run Proline Dirt Hawgs or whatever they're called, they'd last absolutely ages, you could run in all weather conditions as long as the drainage is designed properly like roads so the water runs off the edge.....

You could then just make some shock top protectors to allow the cars to "skid" if they landed upside down, rather then snapping things or ruining shocks.

When Lee's CML Raceway was first built the whole track was actually Tarmacced before Astro was laid over the top - We drove on it a couple of times with the wrong tyres but it was still good fun, and even then i think we talked about the idea.....

It would basically be no different to a proper hard packed dirt track, similar grip levels, it would blue groove nicely in the sun and provide an awesome surface in my opinion.... especially as you could run in the wet with no issues!!

What do you think?? Even Concrete would work just as well surely!??

Think of a hard packed dirt track - they may as well be concrete!

Supermoto tracks are pretty much EXACTLY what i'm thinking of, you could even have an Astro / Dirt infield that you could run if the weather was good

Awesome couple of vids here:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=AfbD...eature=related





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Last night running at the Moto Arena for 3 hours I ran a set of foams trued to Losi wheels that were excellent and lasted really well (and they were trued up to look like full sized buggy tyres and not make the car look cack) and I also ran a set of used Ballistic Buggy Greens which got better as the spikes wore off. These would easily last a whole meeting if not two before they were destroyed and you could obviously use tyres that were past their best that you'd normally be acetoning. The important thing would be any jumps would have to have a really long landing ramp as landing on the tarmac is a big car breaker
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Late 80s or early 90s, can't quite remember, Medway Off Road Club tarmacked over the clay (cos it was all bumpy and pitted) the day before a national, bit of surprise turning up on the Sunday. Wasn't very nice really, tyres didn't last too long.
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We sometimes run tarmac buggy at our local parking lot races. (called the 'FastCats Depot')
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv2Iri1CmDE
Unfortunately this isn't a dedicated offroad track... it`s an onroad track us offroaders run on just to get our buggy fix. That explains the dinky little jumps.
The best tires by far to run are worn down dirt tires (hole shots, bar codes, block heads etc) with something like Buggy Grip applied to the tires. While dirt hawgs last longer than the offroad tires, the traction sucks by comparison. An old set of hole shots might last you a few weeks of racing. None of us bought any tires, we just used tires that were too worn out to use on dirt any more.
Also, the track is blown off with a tennis court blower, then sprayed with sugar water to make the traction extra good.
A track with proper jumps, like the one`s shown above, would be awesome!
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Nick, I've had this idea in the back of my mind for years!

if you think about it, what everyone loves is a super blue-groved dirt track, feels like racing on off-road tarmac...

why not skip the prep and the time take for the track to 'rubber in'

I agree with you! (as always it seems)
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maybe ill take the astro off??????????????????????????????????????????????? ????
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Late 80s or early 90s, can't quite remember, Medway Off Road Club tarmacked over the clay (cos it was all bumpy and pitted) the day before a national, bit of surprise turning up on the Sunday. Wasn't very nice really, tyres didn't last too long.
1990 was the year.

I loved the dirt track and had spent a lot of time running, then we get to the site on the Friday evening and they had covered it in tarmac and then put a sort of fine stone over the top which soon got sweapt off the racing line

It was in June and if memory serves the weather wasn't great either. I tried running some Amark square blocks!! Had a crap meeting all in all.
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