New National F Rating?

[wacattack]

Hi peeps, was just wondering what F1/F2 cut-offs were in the national this year?

Cheers

Wayne

[millzy]

67th was the 2wd f2 cut off

[Northy]

40th was 4wd F1 cut off

G

[_sleigh_]

2WD
F1's = 1-44
F2's = 45-67

4WD
F1's = 1-40
F2's = 41-61

[Lee Martin]

TOO MANY F1s!

[Nick Goodall]

Originally Posted by pidge

TOO MANY F1s!

What about Top 10 being F Zero's?

[_sleigh_]

Originally Posted by pidge

TOO MANY F1s!

At a National, is a driver can consistently make a C final what grade would you think he should be?

[Body Paint]

PIDGE: Out of interest what is your proposal for the AGM?

[Body Paint]

See your point there Chris..

Maybe scrap the F grades all together and call it something else? Or is that a bit too radical.

What about an A to Z grade based on your average final thoughout the national season?

IE. I scored 4 B finals therefore I would have a B grade license

[Lee Martin]

i put in a rule. which i though was quite funky...but may not be to everyones liking.

i think top 15 should be F1. then the top 5 at F2's gets an F1 grade.
also top 5 at F3's gets F2.

this will make 20 F1's and also give the end of season finals a real meaning. rather than just a one off meeting.

making them alot more popular and giving people the chance to prove themselves of the national scene.

what you all think?

lee

[Chris Doughty]

I am supporting Lee's rule.

but the AGM is open to adjustment of proposed rules from what I understand, so I think its open for discussion, but I like Lee's idea.

[Lee Martin]

cheers man.

yeh please...looking for everyones views on it...

obviously it cant come into place this year. but would be for next year.

[Body Paint]

I do like the idea of that, but it does seem like you could get your F1 grade by just going to one meeting and having an abnormally good day.

What if the meeting were heald at a "Local Hero" style of track... you could end up with the people who have worked really hard to come 15th to 20th in the Nationals locked out of the F1 contention.

Definately plus's and minus's to that idea.

[GRIFF55]

That sounds good, I also like the idea of the *

[Yardeeee]

It's a good rule Pidge, but personally I don't agree with the part about the top five finishers at the EOS finals gaining a new license. I think an F1 should be achieved through hard work throughout the 6 round national series... someone who does not do any nats but then comes along to the BRC finals for example, happens to come say 3rd, they gain an F1 without even attending a national through the year? Doesn't seem fair to me... not when the guy who has come 16th in the nat series misses out after some really good results through the national season... and if he is an F1 previously, doesn't get to bump up through the BRC ch'ship... or is F2, can go, but has a shocking day. That part of the rule needs a rethink I think... a license grade should not be achieved off your performance at a one-off event.

Plus surely being crowned "British Regional Champion" or "F3/4/5 National Champion" means enough for people to have an incentive at EOS finals and gives meaning to the event anyway.

Just my view... good attempt at a proposal though, just needs a tweak I believe.

Tom Y.

[_sleigh_]

Originally Posted by pidge

this will make 20 F1's and also give the end of season finals a real meaning. rather than just a one off meeting.

You could concievably get more than 20 F1's. If the top 15 in 2WD has different drivers than in 4WD, and the top 5 in each class at the F2's is different.

That's not to bash the idea, coz I thinks it a good one.

I think the one adjustment that might get discussed at the AGM is to change your numbers to include a percentages. So it's might say, F1's to the top 15 people doing 4 of more events, and if the number of people completing 4 or more falls below a set figure then the "15" becomes a percentage, say 20%.

It just means the rule wouldn't need changing if the National became less attended anytime in the future.