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Default BJ4 non-WE to BJ2 conversion - a few Qs

I'm planning on a BJ2 conversion using an original BJ4 chassis, GT2 front sub-chassis and B4 front end.

My original plan was to modify the chassis by simply extending the taper at the front, slicing off the extraneous bits, finishing in a point.
To this, I'd attach the GT2 piece.

However, this is going to result in a long wheelbase - about an inch more than a B4. Could this work? It appears to be well within the legal limit BRCA allow (460mm total length).

The original chassis can't be shortened much due to battery slots. I could cut a G10 chassis myself, or have a CF or alloy one cut.
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I know this is a saddle pack configuration but it doesn't look like this one has been shortened much..
You could always turn the rear wishbones around to shorten to wheelbase a bit!

http://rc10b4.blogspot.com/2008/10/rc10-b42.html

http://rsb.se/arena/showthread.php?t=39428

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthre...t=41353&page=3
look down the page.

Good luck with the build.
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Nice idea with the wishbones - that would place weight further back in the car, so might handle quite well when it's slippy. A tuning option, anyway.

I could try the long wheelbase first (that Swedish effort looks very similar), then cut a notch into the chassis to recess the front sub-chassis without getting too close to the battery slots.

My plan is to seat saddles, placed sideways, one in front of the other, next to the motor (an original BJ4, remember). Without the centre shaft, they'll just fit. That means no need for shafts or any of the old top deck bar the really rearward part. How I stop the whole thing flexing front-to-back is another thing, but may feature a carbon fibre tube roll cage!
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also this one done by MrSpeedy
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31166
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Good luck with build up mate, its an interesting concept, and quite challenging to get it right, I didn't

I only ever ran mine indoors, I reckon it'll work better outdoors tho.

I ended up with a chassis with the motor mounted on the left side to improve weight distribution, and with a thunder tiger geared diff in the stock BJ4 gearbox, that worked well, and I still have it if you interested

I also have a custom bodyshell a bit like this

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I only ever ran mine indoors, I reckon it'll work better outdoors tho.
I thought you ran it outdoors last month Si?
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... and with a thunder tiger geared diff in the stock BJ4 gearbox, that worked well, and I still have it if you interested
Which car did the gear diff come from and what did you have to do to make it fit?
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Different car Pete

The parts were from the thunder tiger sparrowhawk saloon, these have a smaller crown wheel than the buggy/truck version.

The crown wheel will need turning down in size to fit inside the tc3 diff case, the pinion gear will also need reducing to fit, and the hole in it made to fit the AE input shaft. The gearbox case will need to be clearenced to get the diff to fit, and adaptors will need to be made to be able to use the metric diff in the Imperial sized gearcase bearings, copper tube was a perfect fit ....

It's not any easy job, but it will fit, and the TT diff is top quality and tough as old boots.....

The end result is that it allows you to use a fairly light diff oil to get steering, but the oil in the diff stops it unloading too much and maintains traction ...

Also the diff is quite heavy and puts that weight just where you want it

Like I said, I still have the diff and case here if anyones interested ?
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Good luck with build up mate, its an interesting concept, and quite challenging to get it right, I didn't

I only ever ran mine indoors, I reckon it'll work better outdoors tho.

I ended up with a chassis with the motor mounted on the left side to improve weight distribution, and with a thunder tiger geared diff in the stock BJ4 gearbox, that worked well, and I still have it if you interested

I also have a custom bodyshell a bit like this

Ohh, si Me like this car..i did a BJ2 on a BJ4WE car..love this one, what a lid !
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Cheers Thomas, I only built my BJ2 cos I saw your video nice .....

It now has an X6 gearbox tho
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