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What are peoples thoughts on driver grading to sort heats other than previous week qualifying and random heats.

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but the theres always going to be someone in the wrong heat.with so many new and returning drivers to the club how do you grade everyone?
leave it as it is...if you have a good week then your in with the right people,but if you have a sh*tter then its tough.it the same rule for everybody.


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yeah but its not just the one or two people in the wrong heats last wednesday we had two heats thats 8 drivers just randomly stuck together yes i would agree the drivers would need to be graded and every body always say they are better than they are but after the first weeks racing the results would show the drivers ability and also if they they couldn't make it for a month lets say when they return that person would be in the correct heat for his/her talent.

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With that system your saying that I can race every week, finish in say 5th place every week but one week 3 random drivers turn up who at some point in a 15 week championship came 4th make me drop down to the lower heats. That then spoils my nights racing and I go home a tad miffed. How has that rewarded my loyalty to the club. At a quick glance at the last championship 40 odd drivers did 11 rounds but 95 percent of them would have to relinquish their place for a 'random' driver which isn't very fair in my opinion.
No system is perfect including ours and sometimes people will feel they are in the wrong heat but its impossible to please everybody so surely the emphasis should be on the regular club racers.

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Suggestions such as this are all very welcome (and we always welcome suggestions to improve the club) but you do have to bear in mind one major point Stu........

Someone has to sit down and sort it all out every week. We all have jobs and families. As it works at present it's pretty self evaluating. And as Crewie rightfully says, the current system rewards commitment to the club.

When I miss a week, I know I'm not going to be in the top heat. I fully accept that and welcome the challenge of trying to get back to the top end from a lower heat.

I think the system works well as is. Yes there's the odd mismatch, but the booking in procedure and Alan's knowledge does put people in a heat pretty well matched to their ability already.
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Suggestions such as this are all very welcome (and we always welcome suggestions to improve the club) but you do have to bear in mind one major point Stu........

Someone has to sit down and sort it all out every week. We all have jobs and families. As it works at present it's pretty self evaluating. And as Crewie rightfully says, the current system rewards commitment to the club.

When I miss a week, I know I'm not going to be in the top heat. I fully accept that and welcome the challenge of trying to get back to the top end from a lower heat.

I think the system works well as is. Yes there's the odd mismatch, but the booking in procedure and Alan's knowledge does put people in a heat pretty well matched to their ability already.
hey dave

im not saying the system doesnt work (its proven) but it could be more efficent you say some one needs to sit down and do this actualy you would but it wouldn't take any longer to do than booking in if the booking in was done straight into the computer what the systemk does as you book in it gives a drop down box to enter driver ability 0-15 you simply ad the number the driver is booked in and a ability level is created then you would click on the create heat button a job done 9 heats made from ability sorted in the correct order as it stands at present alan takes a list he ticks the drivers he then sits down with john and calls the names john then manualy enters the drivers in the pc then the pc prints the heats out. this takes twice as long to do.

again qualify format does the same it sorts the finals out just need to click to create after q is done.

dave doesn't it frustrate you that you are lapping drivers every other lap when you miss a week.

im not saying alan doesn't do a great job but we did have two random heats last wednesday and 1 the week before.

Maybe im a little to compettive but we do it to race and be the best we can be if not whats the point.

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With that system your saying that I can race every week, finish in say 5th place every week but one week 3 random drivers turn up who at some point in a 15 week championship came 4th make me drop down to the lower heats. That then spoils my nights racing and I go home a tad miffed. How has that rewarded my loyalty to the club. At a quick glance at the last championship 40 odd drivers did 11 rounds but 95 percent of them would have to relinquish their place for a 'random' driver which isn't very fair in my opinion.
No system is perfect including ours and sometimes people will feel they are in the wrong heat but its impossible to please everybody so surely the emphasis should be on the regular club racers.

Dave
yes i can see your point the regular club members are the most important thing but what do we all go there for every week that is to race and race with drivers of simular ability not to lap 2sec a lap faster than the other 7 cars in your heat not only does it get boring but it gets a tad frustrating for the faster driver and the other 7 who are forever moving out the way, now thats not racing. i apreciate what you are saying having a driver turn up who previusly beat you he would be graded higher but do you not feel you would want to beat them and become a better driver,

stu

A qualifying final format would get aronud the problem your feeling dave for the reason if you are graded slightly lower than you think you should be the q result would put you in the correct final to maintain the 5th position ect.
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