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Old 24-02-2010
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Default Team Associated B4 Factory TEAM - built in China

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My b4 kit says "Made in china". I always thought these kits were made in USA.

Should this affect quality at all?
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Old 24-02-2010
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Yes it's probably better quality coming from China as they are much more experienced in volume production and using reputable companies their quality control is superb. Not only that but price wise no other country can compare so you the consumer are getting arguably a better kit for less money.
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Old 24-02-2010
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Sadly, for Western manufactureres to survive, they often sub-contract work out to low cost labour bases such as China. Some stuff from China is as good as anything in the World. Some stuff is sh*t. The Chinese then copy the design and offer very cheap knock-off's (see the new LRP cheap buggy) which we are drawn to by the amazing price tag.

We (USA & Europe) are slitting our own throats, the Chinese are helping us do it.

Sorry, possibly more of an answer than you wanted

Your buggy is probably just fine.
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oooh how political lol, and yet very sadly true. couldn't have put it better Alfonzo
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These things need to be said Buck. Oh, I forgot to mention, China keeps it's currency artifically surpressed to ensure their prices are always super keen for us mugs. They also have a 'legal system' which ensures the orginal desingers have no channels to pursue infingement of copyrights etc.

Nothing against the Chinese per se. They're playing a very clever game. But it's important we all realise the game being played.
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Some stuff is sh*t. The Chinese then copy the design and offer very cheap knock-off's
As is some stuff that come out of the US and EU.

Not all things made in China are copied and sold on the cheap. iPhones are made in China, are good quality but we don't see the market flooded copies of those. Yet it is true, they do tend to copy some things and sell on the cheap, they certainly have made a big impact on the RC heli market with the copies but some of the copies are now as good as or better than the originals. That said, the copies seem to be a few years behind the originals in most cases. Align T-Rex 450 Pro heli has been on the market for quite a while (more than year) and it was only a couple of months ago that you started seeing copies appear and they most certainly are not available in abundance yet. Align is still doing very well as company and we are constantly still seeing new products from them.

You could also argue that in a way it promotes constant innovation as the original product designer keeps pushing new products to keep ahead of the copies.

It's fun to watch them have a go though, checkout this site for your daily news on Chinese knockoffs: http://www.shanzai.com/
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In the case of the B4, I disagreee... yes, we are getting the kit for less money... but the quality is suffrering from it... I only realised this when assembling my Yokomo B-max4 FT. I had always though my associated kits were excelent quality untill I assembled the B-max. Now I realise actually how low quality it is in comparison... Don,t get me wrong, it,s still a great racing buggy! But quality isn't as high... Which is to be expected I guess...

I have to agree with Alfonso on his comments... In order to make short term profit, we outsource to these countires... Then a few years later we complain because they have become our main competitor...

Oh well, just my 0.02$...


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Yes it's probably better quality coming from China as they are much more experienced in volume production and using reputable companies their quality control is superb. Not only that but price wise no other country can compare so you the consumer are getting arguably a better kit for less money.
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Frogger - I did mention that some stuff from China is as good as anthing anyone makes. It certainly is not all sh*t, although a fair bit of it is.

They work hard, and are clever, although not innovative. They train more Engineer's and Scientists every year than we do in, ohh I dunnno, 20 years or something. They are also ruthless & have no scuples in business.

It's important to realise that there is a 'price' to pay for outsourcing so much. Nowadays China has all the money, we have none. And that is not a good position to be in generally.
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I know, I'm with you Alfonso

It's just that some people have a view that everything from China is crap which as you and I have pointed out is not the case. The Chinese are working hard to squash that image. Some people also believe that they have no copy right laws but as you have eluded to, they have very strict copyright and intellectual property laws, it's just enforcing them that doesn't quite happen so easily
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This is one reason i think that the Predator has stayed british
apparently the chinese give you a good quality product at an unreal price so you accept and send all your tools out there....then the first batch are bang on....the second not so good quality and the price due to something or other has too go up ! and so on +then all your tools are over there
upset them and you find rippoff products sprouting up everywhere like the pound shop or argos
can you imagine your horror walking in a said shop and seeing your product (pred for example) moulded in low grade christmas cracker toy plastic with a massive printed circuit board electrics and, Requires 8 AA battries written on the box's see through plastic window....oh and £19.99 sticker on it
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