1/8 indoors at bury

[budfish]

I don't know about you lot but I think the 1/8 buggys are awesome powerful and great fun. But I don't think they should be used at the indoor venue. The 1/8 cars are going to either rip the floor covering or really hurt someone. Also drivers waiting for the next heat are in danger I must have counted at least 5 buggys come over the table top and jump into the drivers waiting in that area also restricting the view for the racers coming round the bottom carpeted hair pin. I think this area should be no waiting due to the danger. People not racing the current heat should remain in the pit area until the last car has finished

regards

buds

[MRD]

I agree 100%. Also when the race is over all none racers leave that area asap. The number of times I put my car down, got onto the rostrum then couldn't see my car for all the people hanging round that bottom corner, which is pants when you only have like 20 seconds to line up on the grid.

[budfish]

Originally Posted by MRD

I agree 100%. Also when the race is over all none racers leave that area asap. The number of times I put my car down, got onto the rostrum then couldn't see my car for all the people hanging round that bottom corner, which is pants when you only have like 20 seconds to line up on the grid.

I could not agree more mark. I to had the exact problem at one point someone just stopped himself standing on my car. It just felt like chaos for about 30 secs before each race

buds

[T4miy4 Guy]

I found afew times when i was finishing my race that i was getting hussled on the rostrum from the next heat drivers getting there spot, which was annoying but i do understand that it was quite rushed between heats. Defineatly struggled seeing at times though , i`m not moaning just think Dave has a point

Andy

[budfish]

I don't fancy one of them big 1/8 swine smacking me in the head or anywhere else I'll take my chance with a Durga as I have before but one of those big dogs is going to kill or break you leg what do they weigh? It must be around 4kg that's some psi if it hits you

buds

[rob m]

it was bit of a crush round that point and yes could not always see car when racing because of amount of people in one space,also when racing all it needed was the person next to you to lean slightly forward and you could not see the corner either end of track,just need to remember when next planning track leave a couple of meter in front of rostrum not put track right up to it.or taper track away from rostrum at a slight angle either end keeping full depth in the middle.

[steelie600]

My personal opinion is the 1/8th should stick to 1/8th tracks. There are 3 top tracks near Bury, NNRC in Preston, PRCC in Blackpool, and Pdmcc in Nelson. If a track is designed for 1/10th which Bury clearly will be the 8th's are just too big/fast.

So if any of the 1/8th contingent want to race on REAL 8th tracks come over to the above tracks and we promise not to beat you by much.

[jameswilkinson7]

Originally Posted by rob m

also when racing all it needed was the person next to you to lean slightly forward and you could not see the corner either end of track,just need to remember when next planning track leave a couple of meter in front of rostrum not put track right up to it.or taper track away from rostrum at a slight angle either end keeping full depth in the middle.

I agree with that Rob, I struggled a couple of times with that too

[MRD]

I couldn't see past Pauls belly .

[The race controller]

Originally Posted by rob m

it was bit of a crush round that point and yes could not always see car when racing because of amount of people in one space,also when racing all it needed was the person next to you to lean slightly forward and you could not see the corner either end of track,just need to remember when next planning track leave a couple of meter in front of rostrum not put track right up to it.or taper track away from rostrum at a slight angle either end keeping full depth in the middle.

I agree Rob.
........................'ang on, I thought you helped build the track.

[T4miy4 Guy]

Originally Posted by The race controller

I agree Rob.
........................'ang on, I thought you helped build the track.

I agree Rob`s fault

[rob m]

Originally Posted by The race controller

I agree Rob.
........................'ang on, I thought you helped build the track.

wow hold on,it cant be all my fault! i was only following orders from other people who i presumed new what they were doing,so next time il speak up,people should put pen to paper for track ideas to speed up building on the saturday aswell.

[birdy]

I was one of the only two 1/8th racers at bury this weekend and I am struggling to see your issue with safety.

I have raced 1/8th RallyX for over 5 years and have never see any broken legs nor have I seen anyone killed by a 1/8th Buggy, Believe it or not I have seen more broken bones from 1/10th cars in my early years of 1/10 racing, I also see more accidents from safety issues with the track (people tripping whilst marshalling) or falling rostrums.

If the track is set out correctly and drivers are warned at the drivers briefing not to gather around the rostrum then there will be less chance of an accident.

Also with the issue of the 1/8'ths ripping the flooring up off the jumps, add a little more carpet to that landing area to protect.

I think what the Bury club have done to allow 1/8 to race is a very good thing and would hate to see them get banned because of an issue with safety.

[budfish]

Neil I'm not saying your not very capable driver becouse I know you are . What about the young lad racing one he took my car out before the race even started . He does not have the control you have and my mates just bought one I wouldn't like to see one in his hands he strugled keeping his lazer on the track so what's he going to be like?

buds

[matdodd]

Originally Posted by budfish

Neil I'm not saying your not very capable driver because I know you are . What about the young lad racing one he took my car out before the race even started . He does not have the control you have and my mates just bought one I wouldn't like to see one in his hands he struggled keeping his lazer on the track so what's he going to be like?

buds

To be fair to the young lad it was his first race meeting & the first time he had used the car so probably shouldn't of been in your heat there alot harder to slow down than a 10th car!
When he put some non kit tyres on he did ok infact looking at the results he beat people who have raced much longer than him finishing 4th!

I do agree we should keep people waiting away from the big jump though some people seamed to just launch it and crash there lap after lap!

In general though I think the Woody & the guys did a good job on the track an I'm sure it will be even better next time

[steelie600]

so is it just 8th buggies allowed or can truggies play too??

can you see where im going here??

I know what i said before but i have since found out that the indoor track is massive and retract what i said. But i still stand by the safety ideas, prevention is better than a cure and if it means standing in a hi vis vest fer 5 mins then so be it. After all i do it at outdoor meetings so why not indoors?

[budfish]

There has been some good ideas and a lot of input from drivers of all skill levels(me being the worst apart from shanks)

so the upshoot is when building the track I think we will be aware of the danger points and also the 1/8 buggys . No waiting in the area where the heat sheets and transponders are and maybe leave a space of about a metre in front of the rostrum to aid visability of all the track. I will be there helping rog, woody and the lads the Saturday before the race so hopefully we should be able to accomadate some of the ideas. Not sure of the hi vis though

we've all got to remember we won't get a second chance if we damage the floor covering we are out no second chances. Then what do we do for rest of winter??????

Regards

Bud

[Gibbon666]

Originally Posted by birdy

I was one of the only two 1/8th racers at bury this weekend and I am struggling to see your issue with safety.

I agree. The issue isn't with the 1/8th cars - it's just with keeping people away from the track.

Rather than going to the extremes of netting the whole track, just some safety tape in the busier areas (where drivers are waiting and reading the time sheets) would be sufficient. That would keep the view clear for the corners as well. You could always net just the near corner if any issues were evident.

The last thing I would want to see is any class being excluded unnecessarily. I know that Bury have always been very open to running other classes and I think that this is good for the hobby.

Dave
Roundabout Toys

[jameswilkinson7]

The 1/8th looked good going round. They were loads faster than the trucks though. Its a shame there arnt enough to make their own heat. The younger driver did seem to be struggling with his car. Thats not his fault as we all need to start somewhere. It was a little hard work trying to get round and keep out of the way too. Those 1/8th cars can really push the trucks around. But I believe that 1/8th electric will catch on and I hope will see more of them

[Si Coe]

I wasn't suggesting 1/8th are in any way unsafe, just that I felt the safety measures we had put in place were inadequate to cope with them. I've been to nitro races before and agree that on a correctly set out track they are effectively safer than 1/10th (because we often skip safety issues) but that is at a proper 1/8th track.
Essentially we are left with a choice - build the track with the 1/8ths in mind, or not allow them. Its possible to increase spectator safety fairly easily (there were more benches to make barriers) but marshal safety is a lot harder. Several marshals got hit by 1/10ths especially marshalling the jump. A hit from an 1/8th in full flight would have you in hospital.