BMW's plug-in baby

[bodgit]

we all race electric cars and I would,nt mind driving this.
When petrol dries up the future is starting to look better looking better
http://cars.uk.msn.com/news/photos.a...ntid=149492383


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Which is to say 0-62mph in 4.8 seconds, and an electronically limited 155mph. Using Formula 1 derived aerodynamics, a twin-clutch gearbox and the very latest battery technology, it also emits just 99g/km CO2. The BMW Vision looks like the future - and the future is no longer slow.

[Lee]

Originally Posted by bodgit

When petrol dries up

It's something that we will never have to worry about. There is still as much crude in the North sea today as was predicted back in the 70's, it's just more expensive to get it out as it doesn't just flow up for years under its own pressure, we now have to inject water or gas down to get it up.

Car firms know this, hence why we are all not driving round in elec cars or anything of the green ilk, When there really is 30 years left of oil then you will be paying 10 quid a litre at the pumps

[Hog]

Plus it's been reported that BP have just discovered a huge new reserve somewhere off the Gulf of Mexico I believe.........

[Gonky]

Originally Posted by Hog

Plus it's been reported that BP have just discovered a huge new reserve somewhere off the Gulf of Mexico I believe.........

Either that or they're liquidising mexicans!

[Lee]

Originally Posted by Hog

Plus it's been reported that BP have just discovered a huge new reserve somewhere off the Gulf of Mexico I believe.........

There is loads of oil out around Brazil etc, in the last month alone we have had 2 facilities go online, the biggest problem companies have had in the past has been the depth of the water they can extract oil from. One of the ones we have just put on line is drilling from a sea bed depth of over 2600m which is a fair depth, its the deepest in the world right now.
I also agree that yes it would be great to have a technology that can be 'green' (if your that way inclined) and can give you a 200m range etc, the fact of the matter is at the moment they can't. Even the honda that runs on hydrogen is bloody expensive. It will happen eventually but i can't see it being for a decade or so yet.

[Hog]

Apparently the new field lies 4100 metres below the wet stuff!!!

[Lee]

Hmmm i wonder where that bad boy is being built

[cjm_2008]

Originally Posted by Lee

It's something that we will never have to worry about. There is still as much crude in the North sea today as was predicted back in the 70's, it's just more expensive to get it out as it doesn't just flow up for years under its own pressure, we now have to inject water or gas down to get it up.

Car firms know this, hence why we are all not driving round in elec cars or anything of the green ilk, When there really is 30 years left of oil then you will be paying 10 quid a litre at the pumps

...but just because the oil is there, does it mean that car manufacturers shouldn't (or shouldn't be forced) to develop electric technologies?

to me, using decayed dinosaur & plant matter to get from A to B seems a bit stupid, not to mention damaging to the only planet we have.

don't get me wrong, I love the sound that comes out of the pipes of my bikes and my kart. but we are totally at the mercy of the oil companies at the moment and it's because no one wants to upset the status quo.

show me a fully electric / fuel cell car that will deliver a 200 mile range with 70mph cruise capability & a price within 50% of a fossil fuelled equivalent, and I'll show you my chequebook

[CBRDEAN0]

Originally Posted by cjm_2008

show me a fully electric / fuel cell car that will deliver a 200 mile range with 70mph cruise capability & a price within 50% of a fossil fuelled equivalent, and I'll show you my chequebook

And according to the WEEE directive - still do nothing for the environment in total - The current re-cycling costs of the Honda the Toyota and the Lexus "GREEN" cars completely outweighs the lower emissions from them.

It would be far greener to run the latest fuel efficient supermini

[DCM]

Hybrids, there carbon footprint is massive, due to the complexities of making the batteries, simple as that, so where you will be putting out less when running, you got massive carbon overheads from manufacture.

To be honest, electricity isn't the answer, another 'clean' fuel is the way to go, so when you run out, you can get filled up, you don't need to leave the car on charge (love to see the lipo charge sack for that bugger!), etc, plus, with electric cars, the electricity still has to be produced, and unless it is coming from, either solar or wind, you still got carbon overheads.

The only thing I do agree with, is looking for another source of fuel, not electric.

Lee, is it true, most wells don't get even half empty before they are capped?

[cjm_2008]

Originally Posted by DCM

with electric cars, the electricity still has to be produced, and unless it is coming from, either solar or wind, you still got carbon overheads.

.... not neccesarily so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_France

when you read that wiki article it soon becomes painfully obvious that our own domestic electricity strategy is fooked. france produces so much power that they actually sell off surplus!

my dream is a nuclear grid powering hundreds of hydrogen refining stations, and fuel cells in most cars - thus solving the charging conundrum.