Windows Vista --> Windows 7

[c0sie]

So let me get this right....

I spend £500 on a laptop last September for Uni, comes with Vista which im lead to believe (at the time) is better than XP yada yada yada.

But now Vista is being phased out as its actually shite and at some point in the future ill end up having to buy '7'?

Without getting into the boring "Windoze is teh sh1t3st" debate, what are my options with Vista? Will their still be updates and support or is '7' the only way to go?

[sly]

Windows 95 was better than this pants OS called vista

[c0sie]

Originally Posted by sly

Windows 95 was better than this pants OS called vista

That really doesnt help me in the slightest, does it.

[kwik]

i done the esact same thing except im not at uni....

i got bored of vista taking up so much RAM i just switched to ubuntu... its free and VERY quick, i use vista for microsoft programes though....

[Danny McGee]

Originally Posted by kwik

i done the esact same thing except im not at uni....

i got bored of vista taking up so much RAM i just switched to ubuntu... its free and VERY quick, i use vista for microsoft programes though....

Vista = Gay

Cant get any simlier than that

[enfieldbanana]

Just bin it and buy a Mac dude

Mac = The dogs dangles

Mac = No way near as many virus out there

Mac OS = Sooooooooooo..... much more stable than any PC that I've ever used. In fact in the 10 years I have used Mac's not once has is played up, freezed up or anything like that.

Now I will be slagged off for being a Mac user

[c0sie]

Originally Posted by enfieldbanana

Just bin it and buy a Mac dude

Mac = The dogs dangles

Mac = No way near as many virus out there

Mac OS = Sooooooooooo..... much more stable than any PC that I've ever used. In fact in the 10 years I have used Mac's not once has is played up, freezed up or anything like that.

Now I will be slagged off for being a Mac user

Im doing a computing degree at Uni. Every computer I will be using and have access to at Uni will be a PC

[Dazzler]

I'd save your money for now, and hope the system hungry features of Vista are phased out in a service pack update. There is bound to be support for a few years to come i'd imagine.

[chris_dono]

Get 7, it's what Vista was meant to be, but without the nonsense that came with Vista (resource hungry etc)

[jhammond]

Although, I'm starting University this August and I've decided to keep with all my Macintosh computers. I'll just run "Bootcamp" which allows me to run "Autocad" and "Matlab" on XP. This way I get the stability I need day to day and only have to use XP (I hate Windows.) for those specific applications.

In my opinion Apple is the only way to go for day-to-day use, but I admit anyone actually doing any real work (Non media.) has to use Windows.


Obviously, everyone has their own opinion.

[DCM]

Right, the reason why Vista is better than XP, is how it protects it's system files, especialy when updating drivers. In XP, the driver could actually change system specific files, and corrupt them, Vista does not allow it, hence the reason why Vista is more hungry on resources.

Vista and Windows 7, 7 is the win 98SE version of 98, it is based on the same kernels as Vista, but they have got it to run lighter on the system, so it won't bog down as much. It isn't a whole new OS, more a refinement of Vista. I have Vista and 7 running, and must admit, 7 runs a little faster on a lesser machine, and things like OS Compatibility works a lot better too.

When 7 comes out as OEM, I may just have to buy it!

[c0sie]

Steve,

Thanks for the reply.
Do you think its worth while for me to keep Vista then, or spend the £70ish to get the home 7 version?

[DCM]

Originally Posted by c0sie

Steve,

Thanks for the reply.
Do you think its worth while for me to keep Vista then, or spend the £70ish to get the home 7 version?

I got the Pre-Release, and there are a couple of stutters, but that is Vista software doing it, but I am very tempted, my Vista install, is from when Vista came out, and is getting a little slow now, so is time for a re-install, but I might just wait for Windows 7.

Re: Macs, I have heard horrors of Mac's freezing, just as much as Windows OS, plus the new Mac's are using PC hardware now, so it is just an OS now, on a limited hardware, it shouldn't freeze then. I have never used a Mac though, I have always viewed them as overpriced hardware, for SOHO use.

[MatJohnson]

MS generally supports OS's upto 3 service packs so Vista int going to just cease to be on October 23rd. It will do what you want it to do. The problem with Vista is MS decided to change the coding standards to code more securely, they just took it a bit far.

Macs work but they are becoming more popular and people are starting to target them with viruses a little more, there still best for design work but as above, the hardware is still far too expensive.

Basically if you want win 7 get it, but Vista will be fine for a good few years. I've ordered my copy but thats mainly because I will end up supporting it at some point in work.

[sosidge]

Originally Posted by c0sie

Steve,

Thanks for the reply.
Do you think its worth while for me to keep Vista then, or spend the £70ish to get the home 7 version?

Vista runs everything a "normal" person needs to use completely "normally". OK, it's a bit clunky, but that is no reason to spend £70 on an upgrade.

[Richard Lowe]

Nothing really wrong with Vista IMO, it's all down to who's using the machine. Just as many of our customers manage to stuff their XP install's up as Vista installs

If anyone remembers nobody wanted XP when it first came out - "my mate says it's rubbish" ect, then the same thing happened with Vista when that was released. At least with Vista if an application falls over just the application hangs 99% of the time, unlike XP which likes to crash explorer as well for good measure! I wouldn't say Vista was especially slow either, RAM is cheap these days and is the main factor that improves things. There's no excuse to have any less than 4Gb now, and anyone trying to run Vista on a single core CPU shouldn't expect it to be snappy.

I agree that 7 is how Vista should be, but there's no real reason if you have an existing machine with Vista to goto the expense of upgrading IMO

[passy]

Originally Posted by kwik

i just switched to ubuntu... its free and VERY quick, i use vista for microsoft programes though....

I like your style kwik, as someone who uses Ubuntu every day and makes his living from knowing the power of Linux, I can only smile to myself every time I here all the licensing, cost issues and trouble people have with Windows.

cOsie, I'm sure if you're Uni is any good you'll come across Linux very soon. The best lesson I learned at Uni was that Windows is not the only option -after Uni the lesson I learned was that having Linux on your CV can be useful when looking for work, but I suppose it depends on what you want to do when you've finished?

jhammond - I use Matlab on Linux and it works very well.

I'm sure someone will point out that they can't live without software 'x' and because it doesn't run on Ubuntu they have to run Windows. I also have this problem, to solve it I run Windows XP on Ubuntu inside virtualbox and it works great. When Windows crashes or starts going a bit slow I can just boot up an earlier snapshot, prior to the magic bit rot and slow down that seems to effect Windows machines after a couple of months of use.

The only reason I can justify having a dual boot for Windows is so I can play a couple of race sims.

[Welshy40]

Originally Posted by c0sie

So let me get this right....

I spend £500 on a laptop last September for Uni, comes with Vista which im lead to believe (at the time) is better than XP yada yada yada.

But now Vista is being phased out as its actually shite and at some point in the future ill end up having to buy '7'?

Without getting into the boring "Windoze is teh sh1t3st" debate, what are my options with Vista? Will their still be updates and support or is '7' the only way to go?

Should have bought a mac and used boot camp to have two hds and installed windows xp on one which only cost me £60 as vista is not all its worked up to be. Xp is still at amazon so may be a good alternative.

Windows are phasing out all old hardware so they can make more money from us, which is why im now going down the apple route as they dont change as much and updates are free.

[Big G]

old apples on current OS releases still work really good. Mine at work is a 1.8ghz with 2gb of ram and it performs flauntlessly.

I have this macbook pro running boot camp with XP on the other partition for playing Left 4 Dead when I feel the need to kill some zombies hehe

42 days uptime now hehe. Will probably only restart when I upgrade to Snow Leopard