X10 mods ?

[andys]

Noticed on an X10 'for-sale' ad it mentioned a bearing mod and a prop shaft spring mod ?

What are these, do I need them, should I have them on my X10 ?
I remember hearing about a bearing mod somewhere near the spur gear on early cars to stop the spur from stripping, not sure how to do it, or if I need it.

Also I could do with some new Diff / Thrust balls, anyone know where to get some (and which ones) for sensible money, rather than getting the TTech ones ?

Northy ???

[SCOTT DICKINSON]

Andy
trust me the x10 needs no mods and doesnt strip spurs
do you know the x11s on its way?
the x10 is bomb proof for competant people.....like all the rest of rc/cars

[bert digler]

Originally Posted by SCOTT DICKINSON

Andy
trust me the x10 needs no mods and doesnt strip spurs
do you know the x11s on its way?
the x10 is bomb proof for competant people.....like all the rest of rc/cars

scott are on something my mate the monk ate about 15 spurs last year

[The Monk]

Originally Posted by bert digler

scott are on something my mate the monk ate about 15 spurs last year

Ah that was me! I gave up my pred this winter indoors when it just looked at the gym mats and broke!

It's a marmite thing, eithere you love it or hate it, I was intrigued by it, tried it and now hate it!

[burgie]

the spring mod on the propshaft is a method af ensuring the propshaft is pushed all the way back into the rear pinion, as it was discovered that maybe the rear pinions were breaking because the propshaft was moving too far forwards into the front gearbox under certain conditions.

The spring allows the propshaft to move forwards and backwards as necessary when/if the chassis flexes without anything being damaged, and is probably more useful on a propshaft that has not been built precisely.

The question about needing one or not is entirely up to you.

The bearing mod probably related to the propshaft being supported by two bearings instead of one - again this is not a necessary modification. The X10 transmission, if built correctly, is bullet proof "out of the box" now.

As for diff/thrust balls, I have no idea - there is a thread on www.the-pred.co.uk that discusses the use of Tamiya thrustraces etc., but having never had an issue with the ceramic diffballs in the pred, i wouln't know which others fit the car.

Hope this helps.

[SCOTT DICKINSON]

Hey bert
your freinds x10 must have been built incorrectly (maybe to much end float in the prop,,or motormount not being sufficiently tight)
the x10 has been tried and definatly tested and dosent have any transmission issues as long as the pinion saver rings (supplied in kit) are fitted
as you probably know my little Bro now owns ttech and if there was a real problem we would now be talking about it honestly and getting to bottom of it and putting it right
at my local club the pred outnumbers all other makes considerably and they all run fine
as burgie rightly said (if built correctly virtualy boombproof)

cheers

[MATTY]

I must say that i have seen alot of spurs go on the x10 ! reason y ?

[SCOTT DICKINSON]

Bert/Jimmy i am not happy at all with berts response
all i have done is offer advise or try to help with your problem bert.......
you know nothing about me bert and have just made this attack very personal
how old are you?
and my Durango is sitting next me in my work shop ,but not realy sure what thats got to do with the price of fish!


modified the bearing assembly!!!!!!!! thats not a standard pred !!!!!so why not state that originaly......and i know you run this site jimmy but theres no need for this mod! its more than likely this causing the problem , but hey i dont care anymore
everything that comes out of you mouth/keyboard is negative

i think BERT you must lie awake thinking up weird ways to make up problems and derrogatory attacks
sincerly hope you get banned ( thought oople was better than this )

oh ...and Berty Baby.....learn to SPELL

[SCOTT DICKINSON]

Bert instead of trying to attack me why dont you engauge in helpfull posting to why this spur thing is happening.....as you are an engineer
isnt this what oople is for?
and you never answered the question to why your mates car chewed spurs
(trying to get back on track)
if you read my posts again you will see that none of the things i have said are...personal/attacking/or suggesting that i know better than anyone else
just trying to be helpfull and get to the bottom of this problem

i expect a response

cheers

[jimmy]

lol

Bert was naughty with that message so I have deleted it - please PM me if there is a 'problem' since I don't always have time to read every post and that goes for everyone of course. If there is a problem, then let's be nice about it!

bearing mod - one of the team drivers invented it and never stripped a spur. The bearing mod was there to stop the spur moving so much when the chassis was twisted. (like when you land on one corner from a big jump.
I don't think we really need to get all silly about this - the design of the x10 spur was changed to make it stronger (one less tooth for the same diameter = stronger better profiled teeth).
If people are stripping the new spur, for whatever reason, it needs discussing as to why.

[usagi]

Scott,

It might be worth looking through the archives at the forum about the bearing mods that were carried out to the early x-10's and having a chat to the owners of these cars to find out why they did the modification in the first place.....they must have done this for a good reason.

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268

It may or may not provide some of the answers to the "possible" spur problems and who knows...might provide some interesting ideas for the new x-11

[The Monk]

Originally Posted by SCOTT DICKINSON

Bert/Jimmy i am not happy at all with berts response

Scott I know who/wher Bert is if you'd like to go round with the 'lads'

His name is Eric and he lives at 29 Acacia Road and when he eats a banana an amazing transformation occurs......lol.

[MattW]

Scott, yeah i understand what you're saying, and to a point agree - but i stand by my origional view that a duel pad slipper (with improved springing as Jimmy surgests) would be an improvement. That said, like i stated from the outset - i haven't ever stripped a spur. (que crunching sound next time i run car )

The transmission is generally good - as is the car, if i didn't believe this i wouldn't still be running it. That said, i don't think it's perfect (perfect car doesn't exist - but i think the one you have in your hand probably comes closest!!) and believe there are a few things that could be improved. Slipper is one area for me, as is diff outdrives. I think the diffs would be better if they suppported the plates properly.

[SCOTT DICKINSON]

Best not Ernie might be there
and you dont want to mess with Ernie

probably not a good idea as my wife is a legal executive!

anyway you (the monk) cant blame me for having a little gripe with ernie or bert or what ever his name was forgotten!
he did call me a rather rude name for absolutely no reason (obviously off his head and needs putting down) on this public forum which can be read by women and little children+ inteligent people blush when they read stuff like that..and it puts them off
silly man but hey ho

could probably bash him a bit more but whats the point
its all fun and we are all freinds on here i would hope
anyway ive wasted enough time (i aint got) talking about rubbish now
and would very much like to get back on topic now
to sort out these pred mods....

cheers