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Old 14-04-2015
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hi, after a long time away from the hobby , i started to race again this year, i had a rear motor but everyone advised me against using that on astro but on my first race back i was surprised how different the two types drive and react, me not being used to anybut a rear motor embarrased myself by driving probably the worst ive ever driven on a track. I did not come last haha but i know i could do better ( may be a bit rusty)

so i need to adapt and change styles and learn a complete new way of driving and set ups etc.

is there any advice anyone can give to help with adapting?, because im struggling with it.

I am now using an sv2, a pre made one that was not very well built i must say, so also had problems there, and i am thinking of going back to rear motor which what i know and am used to.
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Old 14-04-2015
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Personally is stick with the mid and try and find a setup for a track you race at from the website below. After a few weeks of driving mid if you go back to rear you will realise how much less corner speed a rear car carries and the mid can b faster in low grip due to the amount of steering they generate

http://www.petitrc.com/setup/schumac...CougarSV2.html

Currently I can't recall the last time I sawa rear car run competitvly - last year I ran a hybrid front motor car and it was as fast if not faster even on blown out grass over most mids so that sort of defied convention lol

I was never a fan of schumacher cars (fiddly and over complicated IMO although there's no doubt the Kf is fast) and if you are still thinking about having rear and mid options you'd be better off picking up a used yokomo bmax 2 kit that can be swapped from rear to mid in about 30 mins if required, durability on this car is very good and they are popular at many tracks also.
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Old 14-04-2015
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yes thanks , im sure it is faster but i do have to change driving style, probabyl a few meetings and practice sessions i will get used to it, and your right about cornering itw where i suffered the most, its was allot of over steer into the fiddly corners , there is way more front grip than im used to and means i turn to much, and habbits are hard to break, and the setup is something else i need to learn with these cars, that clearly is not the same at all,

thanks for your link , ill read it and see if i can improve my car

schumacher cars are ok i have a couple , a kr i built and thats fine but i got lazy and ordered the své built and it was terrible, so much was not in order and i had problems when i raced it with things just not being right with the build and spent the time not racing , trying to put it in order, ive rebuilt it now ( properly ) and when i complained i gotnot reply from them.

thanks for your time
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Old 15-04-2015
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i find my mid motor car much more forgiving to drive than the b4 it is based on. the b4 was always quite bitey on the steering and a bit snappy on the arse end, but the mid has just as much steering, but with a smoother feel, and a more gentle slightly drifty back end that is much more controllable on throttle, really just a much better behaved car, mine is a homebrew one though and in the end it is all about a setup that works for you on virtually any chassis
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Old 20-04-2015
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ah yes indeed, set up is different for driving styles, i did ask a question in the schumacher section about tyres, was thinking of running wider tyres (4wd) just to see what happens, or would it be best to stick with slimmer ones?

i have a set of yellow mini spikes lying around and may aswell use them, ive been away so long from the hobby and allot has changed

i have however changed allot of the set up on the car and hopefully that helps( smaller spur and larger pinion for one main change) i should also mention its converted to take a stick lipo and i know that is going to change the charactor of the car probably allot.

guess ill experiment with it until i find what works for me
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i find 4wd fronts good on the front of my 2wd, seems to have a little less bite but just as much overall steering, after surgery with the nail clippers to remove the outer rows that is. saying that, the new car for this year has much more steering so will probably be back to 2 row studs.
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