Brca battery list

[Tedje van Es]

After yesterdays announcement that only brca approved batterys can be used from next year on i have found a list here:

http://http://www.brca.org/sections/...ologation/1142

Interesting and worrying is that although the 4000 and 5300 version the hpi plazma are listed. The 30000 i use is not and i cannot think that the brca only caters for the more professional drivers and not the hobby drivers like me.

Also i do not think that the 3000 version of this line will be any less safe then the bigger capacity versions.

Although i can understand why this is done i am disappointed by the choice the list offers.
Tve

[neallewis]

link correction for approved Batteries and motors: http://www.brca.org/content/homologa...-updates/14218

[Terry1965]

I dont see the Turnigy 5300 on the list that a lot of us are using although it is ROAR approved


Terry

[neallewis]

ROAR does not equal BRCA

[Tedje van Es]

Like i said terry. Its all about the money!!! Tve

[DynaMight]

I guess since the batteries have to be submitted to the BRCA for "testing" plus some cash, the companies that do submit their batteries, just choose the ones they think people are most likely to race with, which generally are 4,000+mAh.

I have emailed Hobbyking regarding their batteries, I'm sure many have in the past before so possibly wont get anywhere, but it has been forwarded onto the Product Team. It may push them to do it if more clubs take this stance on non-approved batteries, as I assume battery sales will drop. Obviously we dont know if its just a case that they're never been sent for testing or some other reason why they've failed. I run them without issues & certainly dont see them being anymore unsafe than other (more expensive) brands.

[rondoolaa]

i emailed the BRCA about the battery list and this is my question followed by their answer,

question i sent:

A club I have gone to for the last 3 years is now saying brca are saying we have to use batteries on the brca list, my batteries are hardcase turnigy nanotech and half the other drivers use these, I for one will not be racing next year if I can't use my nanotech batteries as I've got 10 of them and had to save for a long time to get these and can't afford any more batteries, The only time I have ever seen batteries go up was during charging and due to charger settings not the battery, I have been told by a member I may be ok and may still be able to use mine next year as I charge all my batteries at home and not at the club, can you confirm this and please reply concerning nanotech batteries, I know of at least 8 people that won't go next year if they can't use their batteries,


the BRCA response was:

Hi,

The EB listings are primarily used to keep as level a playing field as possible at National and Regional events. Use of the listings at club level is something that the club enforces and NOT the BRCA. The only thing we recommend is that the cells are from a genuine importer and that they are charged in a fireproof container.

However..... clubs that insist on BRCA EB compliance are covering they own backs very well as the use of any self imported cells is then excluded.

It is a club issue.

Cheers.



then i sent another email saying:::::


Hi, thanks for the reply but i was told that it's the brca insisting we only use batteries from the approved battery list on the brca website, can you confirm if this is correct,
Plus the answer didn't answer one of my questions which was if it is a brca enforced rule can I use ones not on the list if I charge them at home and do no charging at the club.
Please reply again commenting on both questions, thankyou.


the reply i got was:::::

Hi,

We don't insist on the lists being used, it's up to the clubs. It's not even enforced in two of the sections! It's a voluntary thing, you choose to use the lists or not.

We have no rules on charging at home or the club, we ask you to do it according to the manufacturers instructions to be on the safe side.

Hope this helps.
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mine were purchased from hobbyking uk and they were the importer, not me via other means
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[Mowen208fly]

They said - We don't insist on the lists being used, it's up to the clubs. It's not even enforced in two of the sections! It's a voluntary thing, you choose to use the lists or not.

Remember guys Sections are different to regions.

So this is not saying that 2 regions were not using the battery rule that 2 sections are not !! Just before I am ask the question again of why we enforce it at regionals.

[terry.sc]

Originally Posted by Mowen208fly

Just before I am ask the question again of why we enforce it at regionals.

The answer is simple, because someone proposed it and the drivers voted for it at the AGM. The BRCA officials are only there to enforce the rules that the majority of drivers at the AGM voted in. The two sections that don't use the EB lists are the bike and micro sections, both choose to run their own choice of electrics.

The lists started when we used nimh cells and brushed motors, when you would get the motor and battery of the month, when your motor choice was down to which one would last the five minutes without dumping and cheap batteries didn't have the power or duration of race spec cells. Using the lists meant you didn't have to constantly replace your batteries with new ones that performed a little better, which was seen as a good thing and why the rule was voted in.

[DCM]

Terry, exactly!!

The 10th off-road and on-road sections use the Electric Board homologation rules and lists for the 'Sanctioned' events. A club day IS NOT a sanctioned event. The clubs responsibility is to run it's events in accordance with the General Rules, one of which is that 'drive batteries' (LiPO) have to be charged in a lipo sack etc.

Your club has chosen to implement the list for some reason, you would need to ask them.

As for buying from a reputable UK shop/distributor and not bring them in from outside the UK yourself can only be, in my opinion, for public liability if your cell does fail and damage property.

I do think you are barking up the wrong tree with blaming the BRCA, they aren't perfect but this is not their issue, take it up with your clubs chairman.

[terry.sc]

Originally Posted by DCM

As for buying from a reputable UK shop/distributor and not bring them in from outside the UK yourself can only be, in my opinion, for public liability if your cell does fail and damage property.

Yes, if for example a lipo went up in your house your home insurance company will pay out to you, then try and claim the money back from the importers product liability insurance, or if they don't have insurance from the importer himself. So that means you.

BTW even if buying from Hobbykings UK warehouse your contract is still with Hobbyking in Hong Kong, the UK warehouse is just a distribution centre for the main company.