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Marshalling

It has not been the best so far this year

People leaving their posts and no replacement marshal (time wasted for a volunteer)

Looking at the race not the track in front of them.

I'm sorry i'm old school but i was always told "marshal how you would like to be marshalled" This to me means if you see a car/cars starting to crash START MOVING it may not happen but if it does you will be there quicker

What can be done my thoughts are

Reduce time in between heats so people dont have enough time to go back to the pits

Remove your hi viz vest after you have marshalled and wave it at race control so they can issue a penalty if the next race has started.

And my last one could upset some
B finalists to marshall the A finals as this will mean no need for volunteers and will hopefully be more experienced

I'm only trying to make things better for the region

Well thats it my name is now going to be s**t but someone has to say it.
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Don't your B Finalists marshall the A Final Danny?
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Don't your B Finalists marshall the A Final Danny?
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Marshalling

It has not been the best so far this year

People leaving their posts and no replacement marshal (time wasted for a volunteer)

Looking at the race not the track in front of them.

I'm sorry i'm old school but i was always told "marshal how you would like to be marshalled" This to me means if you see a car/cars starting to crash START MOVING it may not happen but if it does you will be there quicker

What can be done my thoughts are

Reduce time in between heats so people dont have enough time to go back to the pits

Remove your hi viz vest after you have marshalled and wave it at race control so they can issue a penalty if the next race has started.

And my last one could upset some
B finalists to marshall the A finals as this will mean no need for volunteers and will hopefully be more experienced

I'm only trying to make things better for the region

Well thats it my name is now going to be s**t but someone has to say it.
This is oviously aimed at all the other racers Dan, because you "never spin or crash?":-)) so will not need marshalling.
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I would take this more seriously if you didn't shout at a young marshal before your car had stopped rolling.

There are some genuine points about Marshalling. However, Mr Pot, I believe there is a soot covered kettle awaiting a comment about its appearance.
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Marshalling can be bad at most events, but i have the out look that its not the marshalls fault that you spun or crashed, the driver only has himself to blame, so be polite and say thankyou when you have been put back on the track for your mistake, and from personal experience the worst drivers for shouting at marshalls are possibly the worst marshalls themselves.
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I agree in part to this, the quality of some of the marshalling could be better, I did see a couple of cases of people with their back to the part of the track they should be marshalling at he last regional, I also think in some cases the position of the marshall points should be given far more thought, as you build a track you need to think how it will need be marshalled!

But our biggest problem is multi class racers, if you have the 2wd A final straight after the 4wd A and short course you can have 2,3 or 4 people doing both races, thus you need volunteers, now on paper you already have 20 racers busy either marshalling or racing,then you will have some in the pits wanting or needing to work on cars, you have one racer from the last final doing a refereeing stint on the rostrum, so volunteers are starting to get thin on the ground, then when the race is under way they get shouted at.....so they think sod that next time round!

simple answear, if you race more than one class, and it causes a situation were you cannot Marshall the race after yours or the final you need to YOU MUST SUPPLY A MARSHALTO REPLACE YOU,IF YOU CANNOT YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO START YOUR RACE and you will have to marshal. Also the person you supply must be able to do the job, and must be a BRCA member.

And its up to you, not the race director or referee to sort out

Also on the subject we do at some meetings have some very young racers, now Im 110% for this as the young are the future of the hobby, but in one case a young lad who's feet were a good 4inches from the ground when he sat on the seat at his marshal point, was marshalling one of the nastiest and hardest parts of the track and realy should have been swapped to safer position for the sake of safety
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I allways try and marshal the best I can and sometimes can take longer to get to a car than maybe someone would expect.
But what I dont like is someone standing on the rostrum shouting and screaming at a marshal as the way I look at it is that if you need a marshal then you are the one that has made the mistake.
The truth is that no one whats to do marshaling but its just something that we need to all do you will never police it fully as some people will stand and talk to others use there phone or even take photos whilst they are marshaling.
Now the only way is to put forward a standard level of marshaling that you would expect to be followed at each meeting and that needs to be enforced by the regional rep or the club running the meeting.,
This still does not elimate all the problems as it was mentioned at the coastal regional that people would have penalties if they did not marshal and these were not enforced I know this as I marshaled more rounds than what I should have done to fill in gaps.
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Default Common sense

The rostrum should always be a quiet place, swearing especially is out of order, everyone knows that, it's up to your race director to tell/kindly remind the drivers at drivers briefing to marshal your part of the track if its been an issue in the past. This is not rocket science and there's no need to put it on a forum, just like the dms section palaver
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I don't race in your region, but know people that do, so thought an outsiders view might be good.

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simple answear, if you race more than one class, and it causes a situation were you cannot Marshall the race after yours or the final you need to YOU MUST SUPPLY A MARSHALTO REPLACE YOU,IF YOU CANNOT YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO START YOUR RACE and you will have to marshal. Also the person you supply must be able to do the job, and must be a BRCA member.

The problem stems from effectively running 2 regional one 1 day, you can't stop the A finalist from running if the organisers put all of the A finals together, as that is out of there control (and will effectively stop them scoring points that go towards the EOS finals qualification). As for the short course it's not a recognised regional points scoring class, so should only ever be a support class, and if it starts to compromise the regional event (ie not allowing enough time between heats/finals), it shouldn't be run.

And its up to you, not the race director or referee to sort out

If the club run the meeting where there are no time gaps between A finals then its the clubs responsibility to provide cover, as the driver has paid to compete.

If it causes such a problem why not start running each class on spate days.

Also on the subject we do at some meetings have some very young racers, now Im 110% for this as the young are the future of the hobby, but in one case a young lad who's feet were a good 4inches from the ground when he sat on the seat at his marshal point, was marshalling one of the nastiest and hardest parts of the track and realy should have been swapped to safer position for the sake of safety
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i have not read all of the comments yet but just to clear a couple of bits up. at colchester we had 'A' finals after one another due to fact it was 3leg 'A' finals and one leg for all others. hopefully this sunday it will be 'C' to 'A' leg 1, then repeated etc. i have an that we will be trying this weekend too.
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