Hupo's Car at EOS Dortmund

[Chris-S]

Interesting gearbox mount for the rear camber links

[AfroP]

Alloy shock stand offs
Shocks forward and the alloy camber link

[chet]

You mean shocks backwards no? I find it pretty hard to find Hupo and Jorn's setups from races? Do they have there own page out there?


If you look at U.S Durango driver Ryan Lutz he share's all his setups and info from races like it should be.

[OneKiwi]

I think they are testing a lot of new stuff. They haven't given an honest actual setup for quite a while.

Seeing what they write down and then talking to people that have seen the cars and what they are running is not the same.

Looks like a new rear tower as well?? And the new ball cups

[AfroP]

Originally Posted by chet

You mean shocks backwards no? I find it pretty hard to find Hupo and Jorn's setups from races? Do they have there own page out there?


If you look at U.S Durango driver Ryan Lutz he share's all his setups and info from races like it should be.

yeah sorry couldn't really see the picture clearly on my nexus.

wonder if that's a new 2013/worlds spec 210

the back end of that car looks totally different, new tower perhaps, and new camber links etc.
there's new ball cups, the alloy shock mounts look like they are positioning the shocks pretty far back at the front

also there's a new TD cab forward body out for a standard length chassis and a new standard length plastic chassis that has been spotted on some team cars.
add to that the phenomenal price drop on the rtr kits at mb models and the worlds later this year and it all adds up to a new version of the 210 to me.

[chet]

I understand they need to try new parts etc, but they should still help all the Durango follower's I think.

Back in the late 2000's when the AE Pro's where messing around with the lipo's and trying new things on B4's. They would still put most of it on there setup sheets.

It would be nice for Durango customers to know some tricks so we could all get faster.

[dpackster1980]

You can clearly see that they have sandwiched 2 carbon rear shock towers to get the correct offset for running the shocks on the the back instead of using spacers to get them vertical.

Also it appears to be an alloy chassis under there too. Could this be the rumoured +11mm alloy chassis that Jorn has been running for a while.

The blatant the part is the alloy mounting at the back which could be for new camber positions but it looks a little OTT for just that so something else is going on.

[Loheswaran]

Originally Posted by chet

I understand they need to try new parts etc, but they should still help all the Durango follower's I think.

Back in the late 2000's when the AE Pro's where messing around with the lipo's and trying new things on B4's. They would still put most of it on there setup sheets.

It would be nice for Durango customers to know some tricks so we could all get faster.

In 1989, 1991, and 1993 Associated effectively run the 'stealth' b4. The 1989 even had custom made wheels, tyres and a slipper - same with the Yokomos during those years. The Stealth B4 only came out over 10 years after its' prototypes in 1989.

the 210 pics I have seen of Jorns car does have a longer chassis, but little else

[Adam Skelding]

Originally Posted by chet

You mean shocks backwards no? I find it pretty hard to find Hupo and Jorn's setups from races? Do they have there own page out there?


If you look at U.S Durango driver Ryan Lutz he share's all his setups and info from races like it should be.

We add the set-ups onto the TD website as soon as we get them in from the drivers. Some are faster than others at sending them in. I've just added Hupo's from the last EOS today.

It's hard to add stuff that we are testing to the set-up sheet as it can change from race to race dependent on feedback from the racers. Some stuff doesn't work and some stuff does. Our team are testing new items pretty much every week as we try to find the next 0.1s to keep on the right side of the development curve.

The best thing to do is go and ask the driver about what they are doing and why. They will have 'nowhere to hide' and will appreciate your honesty in spotting something rather than a 'sly' look here and there. We do it to the AE and Losi guys, if they don't want you to know then it must be really good

Swapping the shocks to the back is an easy switch:
1: Measure wheelbase before switch
2: Flip wishbones over.
3: Adjust wheelbase by spacing hubs.
4: Mount shocks 1 hole in from your 'front' mounted position on the wishbone. The shock angle for the same hole will be different on the rear (they will be laid-down more), so you need to 'Stand' them back up a little. Moving them in hole will do this.
5: Use spacers on the tower to get the shocks vertical again.
6: Dremel wing to clear shocks.

There's no other 'magic' required.

[TC-Mike]

Can someone please explain what the movement of the shocks to the rear of the tower, will do to the car?
Better jump/land abillities? Better general balance?

Cheers!
Mike
Denmark

[AfroP]

Originally Posted by TC-Mike

Can someone please explain what the movement of the shocks to the rear of the tower, will do to the car?
Better jump/land abillities? Better general balance?

Cheers!
Mike
Denmark

It seems to provide far more rear end stability and rear traction on slippy surfaces.
I have set it up on my 210 and its made the car much better to drive

[Dome]

On Sunday I was on the Intermodellbau to watch the EOS races.
Another driver told me that the Durango guys were running the Kyosho Diffs and Gears, also the Kyosho Suspension Arms.
Actually I didnt find a picture of the front of the car.

[Origineelreclamebord]

Well, the front suspension arms seem the same on the action pictures I have of Hupo's and Jörn's 210s - the rear end I don't have such clear pictures of... Perhaps someone can confirm it better than my grainy pictures can?