losi 22 help

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hi all when would you add these to your car and how would the help ?
Losi +1.5mm Width Aluminium Rear Hex - Losi 22 - TLR2932
my car suffers from low speed tight corner grip roll mid corner
any help would be helpfull

[Delves]

Hi

The effect of the 1.5mm hexes would be to give you more drive forward off the turn and a little less side bite, but the greatest effect would be to remove a row of spike of the rear tyre or other set up changes. Maybe post your set up so all can see and give suggestions as to what to change to help.

Chris

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Hi there looks like I need to try these out
I will post my set up when I get a chance as I don't own a computer our a lap top do every thing on my phone

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Front suspension
Toe +1
Ride height 21mm
Camber -1 deg
Caster 5deg
Kick angle 25deg
Sway bar no
Oil 27.5
Piston 55
Spring black
Spindle type trailing
Shock limiters 2mm
Shock location 2 on tower outside on arm
Bump steer 2mm on spindle
Camber link 2 with no spacers

Rear suspension

Toe 4 deg
Anti squat 3 deg
Roll centre lrc
Ride height 20mm
Camber 1 deg
Rear hub spacing foreword short
Hex width stock
Sway bar no
Oil 22.5
Piston 54
Spring yellow
Shock limiters no
Camber link 1 with 3mm under and E with 3mm under
Shock location 3 on tower/ outside on arm
Battery saddle

Tyres Schumacher yellow cut staggers mid insert front
Schumacher yellow mini spike soft insert rear

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For got to add that the track I race at is yatton Its mostly carpet with 2 concrete sections hi speed sections got no problem with but low speed tight infield makes my car grip roll :-(

[Delves]

Hi

These are the things I would look at;

1) You need to run the cars ride height the same front to rear higher at the rear than the front (typically I run indoors 19mm at the front and 20mm at the rear).

2) I would remove the 2mm under the steering block (i.e the 2mm of bump steer yo have put on) .

3) I would go to a 55 piston, move the shock into the middle on the tower and lower your rear camber link to 2mm maybe even 1mm both on the inner and outer.

To me the back end of your car is set up to roll and generate a lot of drive, and then your front end is very stiff. So in my opinion as you go into the turn you release the throttle to turn in and the weight transferes very quickly to the front outside wheel which doesnt give at all and then it flips. Now I am by no means an engineer, so I could well be wrong but this is the way I see it looking at your set up. I have been running the car on medium grip carpet and wood down at maritime as well as at Faversham over the winter and I have not suffered the problems you are having, so maybe have a look at my set up and use that as a starting point and tweak it from there to your liking.

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114285

I've posted two set up there, one which is mine and the other which is a starting point set up for a standard out of the box kit, as mine has the 4mm trailing axels and a few other bits that you may not have if you have only just got the car. I believe Billy ran the set up I suggested and said it was a good starting point if you dont have the extra bits.

HTH