Keep 2nd December free for Kidderminster event.

[VintageRacer]

Kidderminster and Worcester Model Car Clubs are holding another off-road event on 2nd December.

No event details as yet (I'm going to Japan for 2 weeks on Wednesday and will sort details when I get back). Of course we could run it the same as the previous two events which were highly successful but are thinking about making this one a bit different if there is demand.

Our thoughts at the moment are to run the day as a 2.4 hour (1/10th scale 24 hour) team endurance race with teams of mixed ability drivers working together driving one at a time to get as many laps done as possible in the time. The team with the highest combined number of laps wins the day.

Does this sound like something people would be interested in?

Please suggest ideas that would make it more appealing if this doesn't sound like your thing in it's current format.

[adon30]

Bagsey Tom in my team!! Lol

Sounds a good idea. My thoughts are maybe run 10 minute slots with a 2 min change over to allow safe Marshall change. Then 4 in a team, 4 runs each??
Not sure what would happen if someone broke though with that format.

Also how about handicapping?
Maybe all laps an f5 does count. Then f4 95%, f3 90%, f2 85% & f1 80%.
Not sure how you would administrate it all though.

[jasonrcb]

Well i guess it could fun depending on how its organised and sorted out.

I would certainly be alot more interested in more club meetings,which would continue the great work you have already done in building the club back up.

[adam_u]

Sounds like fun but i'd avoid making it too complicated, mixed ability teams and all laps count seems better to me and won't need a rocket surgeon to work it out at the end!

Also just keep it open within the time of 2.4 hours, split the driving time how you want to within the team - if it's teams of 4 is it possible within the timing software to allocate all 4 people's cars/transponders to the same team? Keep an eye on things but leave it to people's honesty not to run two cars on the same lap - then each person could still use their own car - one pits, the next person sets off, meaning that someone's personal car isn't getting battered for the full race, and if you do have a breakage, once the car is recovered to the pits the next person can set off...

Also, each team could have at least one marshall on track at all times - that could be the team's own marshall point for the whole duration so easy to spot if they are not there - few laps penalty maybe?? All in the spirit of a good laugh of course, which is what this should be about

Sounds cool

[neiloliver]

Adam,

We ran a similar format at Oswestry and it worked OK.

We had the same number of marshal points as we had teams.. you started marshaling your own point and then every 20 minutes you rotated one point. Your team HAD to man the marshal point at all times else you got a penalty.

The TRUST thing.. this did work most of the time but we did have issues where teams would run two cars at the same time.. it was very naughty. The only way around it in my view is to have a ref on the rostrum at all times.. and maybe a baton for each team that has to be physically swapped over at the bottom of the stairs.. otherwise people WILL cheat.

Other than that it worked well and was great fun. Deciding the teams is difficult. I used to think that having mixed ability teams was the best thing to do and this is what we did at Oswestry.. but I think it is more fun to choose your own teams. Mixed ability does tend to leave the worst driver think he is letting the team down and will take the car off sooner to help the team.. As an F4 driver I would prefer to be in a team with F4 and F3 drivers and come 5th than be put in a team with F1 and F2 drivers and have us come 2nd because of me....

Whatever you decide to do I will be there anyway!

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[Yardeeee]

It sounds really cool - my suggestion would be that each team only had one car. Now I know that's fine me saying that, but I would suggest it because a) there is no risk of cheating with multi-car lapping and b) team camaraderie is stronger for it.

It may be helpful for the F1 guys to use a (no disrespect) lesser standard racer's car to help them get it tuned in etc. in the longer term. 2.4 hrs racing is not a particualrly big ask on equipment, and you could always build in tactical "cooling down breaks" but in December, temp will be low, track will be slick, you will be generating very little heat because you will lap slower. Make 2wd the compulsory class too.

What could also be good is, ask a tyre manufacturer to sponsor the event, each team gets given 1 set of tyres 20 mins before the 2.4 hrs begins, they mount them up, glue them on, use the tyres for the remainder of the event. Could get an insert sponsor on the case too because then everyone is level.

As for your teams, 4 members, minimum combined formula of 12. So you could have 2 x F1 drivers in a team, but they would have to be accompanied by 2 x F5's. you could of course have more than 12, but 12 would be the minimum.

Let's do it!

[Yardeeee]

One other thing - 2.4hrs does seem a bit short. Maybe we could do 2.4hrs with a 2wd car, then 2.4hrs with a 4wd car, track in the opposite direction? Then you have done 2 & 4 to keep up the 24 theme .

However, I appreciate that my suggestions are placing great onus on individuals letting their equipment be pounded around the track for prolonged periods but just ideas.