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I have an Ansmann Mad Monkey, and getting frustrated by the juddering when pulling away. It seems I need to go sensorless, but what combo?

Looked at the Speed Passion Revention R, but might be over the top for an amature, as I don't need too much adjustment - I'll just get confused!

What are peoples toughts? I do like the look of the Speed Passion range. Preferably deans, with switch and fan. Must have reverse..

Thanks!
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I too have a Mad Monkey but i dont get any juddering. I run a Bullistorm esc and an Ezrun 4300kva sensorless motor with no probs if that any help. Mine keeps up easily with others at our track who run things like Durangos and Losi.
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Thanks, but even more confused now..... I thought sensorless had to be the way ahead!
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Are you on 40mhz or 2.4ghz? I had some crazy things going on, mostly juddering at high speed and occasionally at low speed, tried all different electrics then did the 2.4ghz frsky mod to my transmitter and it's smooth as anything now
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Default Sensored - Sensorless

Simply put, Sensored is better than Sensorless.

Sensored - the speed controller knows exactly where the rotor is while it is rotating via the sensor lead so starts and slow speed control of the motor is smoother - no 'cogging' or stuttering

Sensorless - the speed controller does not know where the rotor in the motor is so slower control of the motor sometimes means 'cogging' or stuttering starts but once the rotor picks up a bit of speed generally everything is ok.
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Hi all

I have an Ansmann Mad Monkey, and getting frustrated by the juddering when pulling away. It seems I need to go sensorless, but what combo?

Looked at the Speed Passion Revention R, but might be over the top for an amature, as I don't need too much adjustment - I'll just get confused!

What are peoples toughts? I do like the look of the Speed Passion range. Preferably deans, with switch and fan. Must have reverse..

Thanks!
If you have the motor that is supplied with a Mad Monkey RTR - then that is sensorless, and juddering from a standstill is typical of sensorless systems.

For a smooth start you need a SENSORED system which is what all racers use.

The SP Reventon is fine, I had the Stock Club Race version for a while recently until I blew it up (my fault) The amount of adjustment available on them is not particularly large unless you start messing with the boosted stock1 firmware. To be honest I can't think if anything very simple that is raceworthy.

You will also need a sensored motor to go with the ESC.
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Thanks for the replies guys. Yes standard sensorless. So what do we think to these:

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/speed-pa...roducts/368090

or

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/speed-pa...roducts/368088

and

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/speed-pa...products/35157

Not sure what the difference is between the s and r. Perhaps the s doesn't have reverse? All very confusing!

Appreciate any more help before I order......

Yes, running 2.4GHz, so the transmitter mod sounds interesting....?

Thanks
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The Reventon S is a 40 Amp ESC and has a motor limit of 9.5
The Reventon R is a 70 Amp ESC and has a motor limit of 5.5
The Reventon PRO is a 140 Amp ESC and has a motor limit of 3.5
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The Reventon S is a 40 Amp ESC and has a motor limit of 9.5
The Reventon R is a 70 Amp ESC and has a motor limit of 5.5
The Reventon PRO is a 140 Amp ESC and has a motor limit of 3.5
Thanks, just not sure which one would best suit my needs. To be safe, I though I would stick to the same 10.5T as standard, otherwise I would need to change the gear??

What is the significance of the Amps? I am runnning LiPo stick pack.

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Personally I'd go for the 'R' if you can afford it.

The 'S' has a limit of 9.5 so would run the 10.5 but it limits further upgrades in motor and is running close to the limit, plus you get extra software advantages with the 'R', much more adjustability like the Hybrid Boost feature..
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Default 2.4Ghz

If you are already running 2.4Ghz then there is no need to do the FRsky modification. This usually means converting an older 40Mhz transmitter to run 2.4Ghz - Ideal if you have an expensive transmitter that you would like to keep on using but want to run 2.4Ghz, like an old Futaba Field Force 3 or older KO Propo systems.
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