Fugly!!!

[Lee]

Have the F1 cars suddenly got really ugly like dumbo wings and the tails off the air intakes above the drivers heads

[rcluke]

f1 is crappy nowadays, bring back the no driver aids, no laptops to tune the settings and ban all the stupid little downforce things, apart from the front and rear wing.

like the Jordan 191



or the 1970 Tyrrell 001


and a no nosense steering wheel

[antnee]

erm.. they are next year no more little stupid aero bits everywhere, smaller rear wings too

[rcluke]

they will still be controlled by laptops though ... makes them crap

hamilton today, moaning about the ground clearance being wrong by 1mm ... get a grip, just drive the bloody car

[Michael.]

Maybe you're watching the wrong sport?
BTCC sounds more like what you want

[RogerM]

Originally Posted by rcluke

they will still be controlled by laptops though ... makes them crap

hamilton today, moaning about the ground clearance being wrong by 1mm ... get a grip, just drive the bloody car

I think you should get a grip ....... 1mm makes a huge difference to those cars ..... also to our cars!

As for engines being tuned / checked by laptops what do you want them to do ... go back to carbs and a mechanical ignition advance?

My 89 Mini runs fully mapped, as does the better halfs (ok that's a 2000 and left the factory like that) and my 65 pickup will too

I think what you want to watch is classic racing .... or get Dr Who to take you back to the 60s / 70s where both your racing and points of view are valid

[rcluke]

Originally Posted by RogerM

I think you should get a grip ....... 1mm makes a huge difference to those cars ..... also to our cars!

As for engines being tuned / checked by laptops what do you want them to do ... go back to carbs and a mechanical ignition advance?

My 89 Mini runs fully mapped, as does the better halfs (ok that's a 2000 and left the factory like that) and my 65 pickup will too

I think what you want to watch is classic racing .... or get Dr Who to take you back to the 60s / 70s where both your racing and points of view are valid

CHILL OUT MAN !!!

the racing is boring, all i was saying is it would be more interesting if they removed all driver aids, and the drivers couldnt adjust the settings from the steering wheel etc.
as for the launch control, why bother? they might as well drive properly, from a standing start, with cold tyres, spin them off the line and warm them up.

[Michael.]

Originally Posted by rcluke

they will still be controlled by laptops though ... makes them crap

hamilton today, moaning about the ground clearance being wrong by 1mm ... get a grip, just drive the bloody car

Also, what do you mean 'controlled by laptops'

I don't think you seem to understand that the computers are used to relay information to the mechanics, who can adjust things like downforce manually in the pits (you sometimes see them with a screwdrivery thing)

Some things on the car can be adjusted on the move by the driver, from the steering wheel, but I hardly think that makes the cars 'controlled by laptops'

The drivers are there for a reason, other than to bring the car up to the weight limit

[glypo]

Yeah why do people attack F1? People say the cars drive themselves, but when they removed traction control this year..... has anyone struggled without it? No. Simply because they are the best drivers in those cars. Give them some respect, the are in control of the car and not a computer.

As for ugly, F1 cars have always been ugly in my eyes. It's all about function rather then looks. When you were a kid, did you have a F1 car poster on the wall, or a Lambo/Ferrari/etc road car? I know I has a Countach on mine, so in my eyes I have never seen beauty in F1 cars, but I still respect/admire the looks for their functionality.

p.s. very funny comments at end of your post Roger

[rcluke]

Originally Posted by Michael.

Also, what do you mean 'controlled by laptops'

I don't think you seem to understand that the computers are used to relay information to the mechanics, who can adjust things like downforce manually in the pits (you sometimes see them with a screwdrivery thing)

Some things on the car can be adjusted on the move by the driver, from the steering wheel, but I hardly think that makes the cars 'controlled by laptops'

The drivers are there for a reason, other than to bring the car up to the weight limit

i was only saying that, the cars should be like the older ones, and the drivers should give feedback to make the car better, not computers.