Centro vs. S2

[SHY]

Does anyone know if there's a difference in the layout / measurements of these two cars? (look very similar to me at first glance)

And if anyone have had both, do they handle differently?

Cheers

[joker]

the main change is the rear end and the way its all mounted the s2 had the wish bones mounted the the gearbox, the c4.1 has them mounted to the chassis. the s2 was great on high grip tracks but when the grip gose down it stugguld the c4.1 is great on all tracks

[SHY]

Thx! But what is the reason for that?

[Wacker 2]

I found the S2 and the new C4.1 felt exactly the same to drive as they are fundamentally the same car - main difference is the carbon tub chassis on the S2 which should give different flex characteristics to the C4.1 alloy chassis... also the S2 does not bend nor need a fortune spending on it to keep it on the track!

[SHY]

Originally Posted by Wacker 2

I found the S2 and the new C4.1 felt exactly the same to drive as they are fundamentally the same car - main difference is the carbon tub chassis on the S2 which should give different flex characteristics to the C4.1 alloy chassis... also the S2 does not bend nor need a fortune spending on it to keep it on the track!

Thx! This was my exact thoughts as well! Alu will flex in a different way, and the downside being that it bends easily And those carbon tubs are just the coolest thing in RC! I've got a RED SWB chassis now, awesome!

[adey]

Agree with wacker. I am not going to make any friends with this but I don't think the centro seems complete as far as a conversion goes. There is a issue with the chassis for sure so why don't cml put the chassis braces in the conversion. I am taking nothing away from the car. I had a quick go of one and it drove well.

[SHY]

Rudebits make a carbon chassis for the C4.1 as well:
http://www.rudebits.co.uk/product_in...roducts_id=359

Would still flex more than the S2 tub of course...

[Richard Lowe]

Originally Posted by Wacker 2

also the S2 does not bend nor need a fortune spending on it to keep it on the track!

I run mine (C4.1) without any wussy chassis braces and it's ok

A tiny bit of tweak doesn't really make any difference, I managed to bend my prototype chassis last year at the Southport national (hitting Northy's rather substantial footwear DRS open, KERS deployed on the straight), after doing nothing more scientific than putting it over my knee and bending it back then ran it until I got my production chassis - didn't make any difference to the handling!

[SHY]

I have a good tip for you guys with alu chassis plates: I used to do a lot of fuel track racing, and there was a guy in Sweden that rectified bent chassis plates. Probably using some sort of press or roller, not sure. Anyway, it turned out that you can do this process only 1 time. And it becomes stronger than it originally was! (and it costs a fraction of a new one)

Edit: Forget that, would be tricky with the front kickup

[flipside]

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe

I run mine (C4.1) without any wussy chassis braces and it's ok

A tiny bit of tweak doesn't really make any difference, I managed to bend my prototype chassis last year at the Southport national (hitting Northy's rather substantial footwear DRS open, KERS deployed on the straight), after doing nothing more scientific than putting it over my knee and bending it back then ran it until I got my production chassis - didn't make any difference to the handling!

Then you were lucky in how it was bent. My first chassis was tweaked, and it made a huge difference. This was at a raceday, and couldn't drive the car fast anymore. Took a new chassis (thanks matt), and won the next final with it.

Besides that, the hingepin braces are no good, this could have been easily fixed by changing the mounting just a little bit, and you wouldn't even need shorter hingepins.

Replacing chassis and hingepins would cost me about €100, so I threw it all in a box and moved on

Yes, I am dissappointed