vta

[joeloudy]

does anyone run vya in the uk

[Col]

What is vya?

[joeloudy]

http://www.usvintagetransam.com/rules/index.htm

thats the rules link check it out and see if there is anything like it thanks im going to be moving there and was just wondering if there was anything that compares to the class ty for you responce

[qatmix]

Nope, Vta is not a class in the uk. Mardaves are a cheap spec class onroad class. Although they are not really as cheap anymore so at club level you are as well to look at the classic TC or offroad classes.

It's a shame as I like the idea of Vta and read about it on rctech etc scale onroad racing is always going to be fun.

[terry.sc]

VTA is very much a US thing, it never made it over here. Classes with limited motors and spec ESCs isn't popular in the UK. Generally touring car club racing is either 10.5T or 13.5T with standard touring car bodies.

There are a couple of national championships that are nearest to VTA spec. There is the BRCA national clubmans championship has a 17.5T class, but it still allows boost ESCs. There is also the TORC on road championship which does have a 17.5T non boosted class. But both of these still run to normal touring car specification with high end chassis, racing slicks and jelly mould bodies.

There is also the Super Production Cup, the motor used is a 13.5T but there is a class for non carbon chassis cars and a spec body of the HPI Porsche 911 GT3.

That's about all there is, everyone else sticks with touring car bodies and 10.5 or 13.5T motors.

[joeloudy]

ok thanks for the responce wut are some of the chasis ppl are using for tc

[wingnut]

this was from a post about a track in my area that runs vta. the track is speedworld in roseville california.



Body Specifications:
Late '60s to early '70s American pony car Vintage Trans-Am bodies only.
Bolink part numbers:BL2262 '68 Chevrolet Camaro
BL2263 '65 Ford Mustang
HPI part numbers:17510 - 1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda
17519 - 1966 Ford Mustang GT
17508 - 1965 Ford Shelby GT-350
7494 - 1968 Chevrolet Camaro
17531 - 1969 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z28 BODY
104926 - 1966 FORD MUSTANG GT COUPE BODY
Parma part numbers:10143 - 1969 Z28 Camaro
10141 - 1970 Boss Mustang
10113 - 1970 'Cuda
Pegasus Hobbies part numbers:PGH4001 - 1970 Camaro SS
PGH4002 - 1970 'Cuda
PGH4003 - 1970 Mustang
Protoform part numbers:
1526 - J71 (1971 AMC Javelin)

Body provided deck lid spoilers allowed (not wings). No additional skirts or raised/extended wings or air control surfaces allowed. Body must be trimmed at body trim lines. Full rear bumper required. It is highly preferred that bodies are detailed in race type livery in period-correct paint schemes. Fluorescent colors, wild graphics, chromes and non-period correct paint schemes are frowned upon. All cars must have a number on the hood, both doors and trunk lid. Wheel covers of any type are NOT allowed. All cars must include a driver figure consisting of at least a head and shoulders.

Driver Figure part numbers (ANY suitable 1/10 driver figure is legal-these are readily available examples)

HPI part numbers
#104815 INNER BODY SET FOR DT-1 TRUCK BODY

Associated part numbers
6180 Driver, unpainted, 1:10

McAllister part numbers
#423 Stock Interior and Driver
#419 SPRINT CAR DRIVER


Tire & Wheel Specifications:

The only tires allowed are HPI tire part #4793 front and #4797 rear, using stock tire inserts provided with tire and any HPI Vintage wheels designed to fit these tires. All other tires and/or part numbers are illegal. Five or Eight spoke wheels available in various colors. 0mm offset front wheels and 6mm offset rear wheels are intended for 26mm width fronts and 31mm width rear tires. 8-spoke Vintage wheels from #3805 through #3814, 5-spoke Vintage wheels from #3815 through #3822 and Vintage stock car wheels from #3854 through #3860, Vintage Wheel CC Type #33472 and #33473, Vintage Wheel DTP Type #33474 and #33475 are all legal wheels.
Grinding of tire tread is NOT permitted. Sanding of mold seam to remove seam is allowed. HPI Vintage Slicks and HPI Vintage Performance Tires are not allowed. NO Tire traction compounds are permitted. No other altering, changing or softening of the tire is allowed. No "double stuffing" of foam inserts allowed—only single stock vintage tire inserts are allowed.
Chassis Specification:

Four Wheel Drive touring car chassis only. Any era or brand 4wd chassis is allowed.
Motor Specifications:

25.5 brushless with 2C LiPo, ONLY. Novak SS25.5 Pro brushless motor (pn:3425V) or Ballistic 25.5 (pn:3625V, stator only pn:S6625) ONLY combined with any ROAR-approved hard-cased 2C 7.4v LiPo pack up to and including 5000 mAh capacity. The Novak Epoxy-dipped stator is NOT allowed. Novak motors are the ONLY motor allowed at this time. All house track rules regarding LiPo usage apply. Only physical motor timing advance is allowed, however Ballistic motors must not be advanced beyond the timing range sticker. 12.3 mm rotor diameter only (no "tuning" rotors are allowed, only stock Novak rotors allowed). The Novak 1300+ 12.3mm rotor is considered a tuning rotor and is NOT allowed. Using ceramic bearings in the motor makes you a dork.
Gearing:

3.7:1 is the FDR limit.
Approved ESCs / ESC Specifications:

Novak
GTB 2 Sportsman Racing Brushless ESC (#1709)
GTB series part numbers: 1710, 1711
Havoc series part numbers: 1732, 1733, 1735
Slyder part number: 1712
XBR part number: 1720

LRP
A.i. Brushless Reverse part numbers: LRP80100, LRP80150

SPEED PASSION
Cirtix Stock Club Race ESC part number: 12280
Battery Specifications:

Battery Specifications: 2 cell ROAR-approved LiPo hard cased, 5000 mAh limit
Ride Height Specification:

Minimum ride height is 5mm.
Weight Specification:

Minimum 1550g in race-ready trim
Race Specification:

- 5 minute qualifiers
- 8 minute mains
- Absolutely NO IFMAR-type starts. All heats and mains should be straight-up starts, with random sorts for each heat. Non random sorts should shuffle starting order for each heat.
Optional Main Variations:
- 12-20 car A-mains, depending on car counts.
- Invert qualifying order based on random hat pull (top 6-10 cars).
- "LeMans" type starts where all cars are lined up on an angle to the racing line in order.
- Run track in reverse rotation for mains.
- Rolling starts
MOST IMPORTANTLY: If it's not in the rules, and does not encompass the spirit of slower, controlled racing with realistic looking cars, consider it illegal. This is called the "Spirit of VTA" Rule. The class is based on slower, equal playing field competition with less traction, minimal aerodynamic aids and mostly older carpet racing technology. The final objective is close, fair, wheel-to-wheel racing for all. All decisions of the race promoter or track owner are final.

[lochness42]

I might would look also in other american category and that's RCGT (don't confuse it with WGT).
Seems to be similar to VTA but it utilise GT cars and I guess it would be more appealing for people in europe as here isn't tradition of american muscle cars.

[joeloudy]

wut about dirt oval does anyone run that in the uk

[Col]

Not that I've ever seen.

99% of our 1/10 scale outdoor tracks are astroturf or grass.


edited.

[daz]

1/8 scale run on dirt, not sure about oval tho.

[terry.sc]

Originally Posted by joeloudy

ok thanks for the responce wut are some of the chasis ppl are using for tc

Schumacher Mi4, Xray T3, Hot Bodies TCX, Tamiya TRF417.

Originally Posted by joeloudy

wut about dirt oval does anyone run that in the uk

The only oval racing we do is stock car racing, which isn't what you think it is, see here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqeLhPxnHQE or indoors with Mardaves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIDkMEpaekE

No one runs dirt tracks as the UK weather means most of the year the track would be mud, which is why astroturf artificial surface is the most popular of road track surface as you can race on it whatever the weather. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4fejDKv9aE

Thanks to the weather the dirt tracks we have aren't hard packed like US tracks, they need lots of maintenance just to keep their shape.
Some 1/8th rallycross racing is done on dirt, but usually the tracks are closed during winter or racing is cancelled whenever it is raining.


We also don't run stadium trucks.

[joeloudy]

are stockcars sprint cars?

[terry.sc]

The only similarity between UK stock cars and US sprint cars is the four wheels and a roof mounted wing.

Electric stock cars are 1/12th scale and race indoors on carpet. They have a solid rear axle with no diff, and have a one piece chassis that includes front and rear bumpers and side guards. The racing is a contact sport, so you need the bumpers to protect the chassis when the car behind decides to help you out of the way when they pass. A 1/12th stock car looks like this
http://www.mardavespares.com/mardave...-v12-f2-rc-kit

Nitro 1/8th scale stock cars are powered by a .21ci engine and race on asphalt oval tracks. They have a single direct belt drive to again a solid rear axle with no diff. Rear suspension is a single trailing arm on each side. Chassis are usually scratch built from welded steel to withstand the impacts from the full contact racing. The cars look like this
http://www.ovalnet.org.uk/gallery/16...g-weekend/307/

[joeloudy]

thanks terry those look realy cool i noticed on the tc cars you didnt list tc5 or anything is this because they arnt legal or other reason thanks

[terry.sc]

Originally Posted by joeloudy

thanks terry those look realy cool i noticed on the tc cars you didnt list tc5 or anything is this because they arnt legal or other reason thanks

I didn't list the TC5 amongst the others not because they aren't legal, but that they just aren't popular. The Schumacher, Xray, Hot Bodies and Tamiya cars are much more popular than the Associated.

[joeloudy]

ok ty verry much for the information