Am I mad for thinking of going back to my B4 from my 22??

[wacattack]

Im seriously thinking about going back to the B4 from the 22 for Talywain, thoughts?

[Steven Forster]

If its what you feel comfortable with and can drive it well, I say go for it

[jameswilkinson7]

I've gone back to my X6. I found the 22 to be unforgiving and hard to work on in mid motor, much more forgiving in rear motor though. Just cant seem to gel with it.

[Darren Boyle]

Originally Posted by jameswilkinson7

I've gone back to my X6. I found the 22 to be unforgiving and hard to work on in mid motor, much more forgiving in rear motor though. Just cant seem to gel with it.

From what we are seeing you are not alone....

[jameswilkinson7]

Originally Posted by DMS Racing

From what we are seeing you are not alone....

I'll never stray again

[jampat2004]

ive got a 22 but have raced my b4 at the batley regional and will be racing b4 at south lakes,it is a well built car but i cant get on with it.

[Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson]

The question is ... Which one do you feel more confident with?

Chances are, If the thought entered your head in the first place, Then you have already made your decision.

[PaulUpton]

The 22 is a extremely quick car and can turn in the laptimes to prove this.

It is a very on the edge car to drive, needs full attention to get it around quick and consistent

Think the reward would be greater with getting the 22 round.

[wacattack]

The problem I've found is it lacks forward drive and wants to rotate at any given opportunity, even in a straight line. When you first drive it you get the impression there is a good car locked away inside and all it would take is some fine tuning with the setup and the beast would be unleashed. However no matter what I've tried the same problem prevails.

[jameswilkinson7]

Originally Posted by wacattack

you get the impression there is a good car locked away inside and all it would take is some fine tuning with the setup and the beast would be unleashed. .

That's what I thought, however just cant find a way to get it there.

[AfroP]

Originally Posted by wacattack

Im seriously thinking about going back to the B4 from the 22 for Talywain, thoughts?

I'm going to say stick with the 22
and it has nothing to do with me wanting to see if you'd sorted the lack of left turning thing that we both had at the regional last week sunday


The 22 is a good car. yeah it may not seem that way now, but its new from the ground up, its going to take time and fiddling to get it right.
The B4's been out for ages and has tons of hop ups and spares and everyman and his dog has a setup for it. its not like that with the 22 yet. which is what makes it more fun. trying new things and getting it to work the way you want

I'd be happy if I could just get it to go left all the way.
everything else for me seems to be fine. think i've just got my shocks sorted to what feels comfortable. 6 hole 56's up front are the dogs dangly's

[nobby]

do it wayne you know you always drove the b4 well so just stick with it.
then again i beat you at the first n/e regional so stick with the 22

[reg]

Originally Posted by wacattack

When you first drive it you get the impression there is a good car locked away inside and all it would take is some fine tuning with the setup and the beast would be unleashed. However no matter what I've tried the same problem prevails.

this is what i found,i changed it quite a bit but then found it looked like i couldnt drive slow corners without it swopping ends in the middle,for me the setup didnt suit my driving,the only way around it was bold front tires and brand new rear,not the answer,i raced at a reginal last sunday and was ready to ditch it,i had nothing to loose so i changed my setup alot and can now run brand new cut staggers front and the new dboots,its so easy to drive and doesnt need to be driven hard to get good times and its very consistant,i managed a 16th in the last round after running in the 40s

[chrispattinson]

Originally Posted by nobby

do it wayne you know you always drove the b4 well so just stick with it.
then again i beat you at the first n/e regional so stick with the 22

I could jump on that bandwagon Chris , only joking Wayne... you did take a corner off the car though didn't you?

I'd go back to the B4 for a national, it's too far to go to try new stuff on the 22.

[PaulUpton]

Before going back to the B4 if youd like try my setup. The car has good amounts of grip, awesome direction change and forward traction.

I've had numerous people say its the best 22 they have seen running

Just PM me should should anyone want it

Paul

[Richard Lowe]

Originally Posted by wacattack

Im seriously thinking about going back to the B4 from the 22 for Talywain, thoughts?

Just because it's new doesn't automatically mean it's better

There must be an error in the instructions for the 22, you managed to screw the gearbox in the wrong way round on yours

[AfroP]

at the end of the day mate, you need to drive what feels right for you and what you comfortable with. maybe for nationals stick with B4 as you know you can get the results. and then for club races go with 22 until your happier with it

[PaulUpton]

Setup below, this is how I ran it indoors, have tried it outdoors was great, just think it needs a bit more weight in it

Front Suspension
Toe: 0'
Ride Height: wishbones slightly above level
Camber: 2'
Castor: 10'
Kick Angle: 20'
Oil: 27.5w Losi (going to try 30w Losi oil)
Piston: 6 hole 1.3mm tapered
Spring: Green
Spindle Type: Kit
Shock Limiters: 2mm
Shock Location: 2-middle
Bump Steer: 0mm
Camber Link: 1 - 2mm washers on tower, 0mm washers on hub

Rear Suspension
Chassis Configuration: Mid
Toe: 4'
Anti Squat: 1'
Roll Center: HRC
Ride Height: Driveshafts Level
Camber: 3'
Wheel Base: Long
Oil: 32.5w Losi (going to try 35w Losi and red spring)
Piston: 6 hole 1.3mm tapered
Spring: Orange
Shock Limiters: 0mm
Camber Link: 1-B (2mm under hub and tower ball joints)
Shock Locations: 2-inside

62g under 96mm lipo (which is about the same as a pack of saddles) so effectivley no extra weight.

Front tyres: yellow staggers
Rear Tyres: yellow mini pins (medium insert)

Speed passion LPF
Ocra 5.5t motor
Savox slim servo

[racingdwarf]

after 4 years of my B4 changed to a 22 and like it so far, yer ok it's had a few things to sort out, is it as good as my B4? well prob not yet as I have only driven it for about 6 meetings, set up still needs to be sorted here and there, but it's not realy fair to say it's not as good as my B4....I gave the B4 four years it was sweeeeeeet, but fancied a change and I think my 22 will be just as good in time


Oh yer I do run the motor in the right place......out the back

Edit. this said I did run a cougar for 2 months over the winter, that was as long as I could stand the god awfull thing, so yes I agree, the are times when you soon know a car is just not for you

[mark christopher]

have you not tried running your kids car? or get the fastrax conversion for your b4?

Mark